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Should an unborn child trigger certain tax and legal provisions?

Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:00 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:00 pm
If we are going to say abortion is the murder of a child...

Should the parents of unborn child get a child tax credit before the child is born?

Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?

Should the father of unborn child have certain rights in respect to the care of the unborn child?

Posted by Lou Pai
Member since Dec 2014
28126 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:05 pm to
Well damn I'm pro abortion now. Let's legalize bashing in the skulls of infants and throwing them in a trash can.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24431 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:05 pm to
Just admit you’re killing a baby and move on. You can walk yourself in all the circles you want. The act of abortion is ending a life so just own it.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37112 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:09 pm to
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The act of abortion is ending a life so just own it.


I agree.

And doesn't a "life" then involve everything I discussed?
Posted by EKG
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2010
44025 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:12 pm to
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Should the parents of unborn child get a child tax credit before the child is born?

Tax credits for people with kids is wrong.


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Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?

He ought to pay one-half of medical expenses.


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Should the father of unborn child have certain rights in respect to the care of the unborn child?

Such as? I’m pro-fathers’ rights, btw; just curious to what you’re specifically referring.
Posted by RealityWinsOut
Member since Oct 2023
1454 posts
Posted on 11/8/23 at 11:49 pm to
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Tax credits for people with kids is wrong.

Then all tax credits are wrong. Child birth is the only way a society grows, unless supplemented by immigration.

We should be giving them out smarter of course, and encourage Biblical Marriage for those children to be born into.
This post was edited on 11/8/23 at 11:50 pm
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50531 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 12:00 am to
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Should the parents of unborn child get a child tax credit before the child is born?

Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?

Should the father of unborn child have certain rights in respect to the care of the unborn child?


Sure. Absolutely. I am totally ok with all of this.

Conversely, if women can choose to abort their children then men should also be allowed to choose not to support a woman who chooses to keep a child against the father's wishes.
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
71171 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 6:41 am to
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Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?


How do you intend to prove paternity?

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Should the parents of unborn child get a child tax credit before the child is born?


Yes. Any medical record confirming pregnancy would work.
Posted by McLemore
Member since Dec 2003
31507 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:21 am to
Your dumb post assumes the tax code is logical and coherent.
Posted by Gifman
by the mountains
Member since Jan 2021
9361 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:25 am to
Should murdering a pregnant woman be two counts of murder? Oh yea, it already is.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3955 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:29 am to
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Should the parents of unborn child get a child tax credit before the child is born?

Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?

Should the father of unborn child have certain rights in respect to the care of the unborn child?


I'll ask you a question.

If you're going to claim to be "pro-choice," then what choice does the father have in the situation? Can he decide that he wants nothing to do with the child and if the mother won't abort, should he be able to absolve himself of all responsibility? If she wants to have the baby, fine, but if she does, she's on her own?

Because that sounds a lot more like "choice" to me than the current situation.
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 7:32 am
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
3955 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:31 am to
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If we are going to say abortion is the murder of a child...

Should the parents of unborn child get a child tax credit before the child is born?

Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?

Should the father of unborn child have certain rights in respect to the care of the unborn child?


And sure, I would say that all of those are great ideas, to the extent that government using the tax code to influence any citizen's behavior about anything is a great idea.
Posted by idlewatcher
County Jail
Member since Jan 2012
79205 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:37 am to
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Should the father of unborn child have to pay child support to the mother of the unboard child, if the parents are not married?


Being married is not a pre-requisite for child support baw.

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Should the father of unborn child have certain rights in respect to the care of the unborn child?


Men have zero rights regardless of what anyone says. He can't choose to not abort. He can't choose anything that would be upheld. Muh my body my choice.
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24773 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:42 am to
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LSUFanHouston


Ever hear anyone say they lost their bundle of cells when speaking of a miscarriage?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24773 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:43 am to
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I agree.

And doesn't a "life" then involve everything I discussed?


An unborn life, yes. Not that hard, guys. Or you just playing a troll game?
This post was edited on 11/9/23 at 7:50 am
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:57 am to
For most of us getting a nice big check right before the baby is born would be a god send, unfortunately nowadays I doubt any of that money would make it to the kid.
Posted by Doosh606
The DC
Member since Apr 2008
3232 posts
Posted on 11/9/23 at 7:59 am to
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Men have zero rights regardless of what anyone says. He can't choose to not abort. He can't choose anything that would be upheld. Muh my body my choice.



I wouldn't say zero but it certainly feels like that these days. Before birth yep she can do whatever the hell she wants, my baby mama started popping SSRIs to the point my son was born a month early. Somehow that's not admissible in court though
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