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re: Sharia-supporter Linda Sarsour to be graduation speaker at CUNY
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:41 am to conservativewifeymom
Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:41 am to conservativewifeymom
Maybe the right should threaten extreme violence and destruction if she speaks. I'm sure they would say they cannot protect her and cancel her speech.
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Posted on 4/24/17 at 6:45 am to LSU1NSEC
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smells like sharia law
Seriously? They are enforcing the laws of the United States, and people would go to a US Court for their cases. Would Sharia be handled the same way? No.
I thought I would answer for you since you obviously are not familiar with the situations.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:06 am to CommoDawg
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Sharia like Jewish law addresses many extremely mundane issues like loans and inheritance. It's not all about stoning adulterers and beating wives. And there are different schools of Islamic thought, some of which do not agree that stoning adulterers, killing non-believers, or beating wives is Islamically permissible
It's not all about stoning adulterers and beating wives.
But it does cover this, does it not?
According to CNN:
Shariah law, according to Muslims, includes "the principle of treating other people justly, of making sure that the financial system treats people fairly ... and most importantly the basic principles of Islamic fate," says Harvard Law professor Noah Feldman.
It encompasses things like marriage, divorce, inheritance and punishments for criminal offenses.
Take note: punishments for criminal offenses. There is the problem. It would try to supercede US law. While some Muslims say they are happy to live under the US Constitution, which affords them the freedom to practice their faith, others would not be happy with this. In almost every single country in which there are large Muslim populations, they have demanded that they practice under Sharia Law.
Lets take a look at what some Muslims leaders are saying:
“God is very straightforward about this — not we Muslims, not subjective, the Sharia is very clear about it, the punishment for homosexuality, bestiality or anything like that is death,” Muslim cleric Sheikh Khalid Yasin said in a YouTube video posted online. “We don’t make any excuses about that, it’s not our law — it’s the Koran.”
And many Muslims want to follow Sahria:
Omar Mateen, the shooter responsible for the horrific attack in Orlando early Sunday morning, was the American-born son of immigrants from Afghanistan, where homosexuality may be punished by death.
“Death is the sentence,” Sheikh Farrokh Sekaleshfar said at a speech at the Husseini Islamic Center in Orlando in 2013. “We know. There’s nothing to be embarrassed about this. Death is the sentence.”
“We have to have that compassion for people,” he continued. “With homosexuals, it’s the same. Out of compassion, let’s get rid of them now.”
Yet, the left will criticize and demonize Christians for not being "gay friendly". howver, in the aftermath of the Orlando killings in which 50 people were shor or killed, this is what the Southern baptist Convention said:
At least fifty people — created in the image of God — were slaughtered in cold blood,” wrote Russell Moore, president of the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention.
“Let’s call our congregations to pray together. Let’s realize that, in this case, our gay and lesbian neighbors are likely quite scared. Who wouldn’t be? Demonstrate the sacrificial love of Jesus to them,” Mr. Moore wrote.
“We don’t have to agree on the meaning of marriage and sexuality to love one another and to see the murderous sin of terrorism,” he said.
Obviously the Christians are homophobic and full of hatred and the Muslims are the religion of peace.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:18 am to germandawg
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Free speech....something the world could use much more of.....
So far, I haven't seen any right wing groups threatening violence to the speaker and to the University if she is allowed to speak. I'm sure you have some links to this happening, right?
One more point? If any right wing groups do this, we won't defend them, we will criticize and demonize them....unlike the left with ANTIFA.
I can't believe you are equating someone criticizing CUNY with what ANTIFA does.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:36 am to DawgsLife
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So far, I haven't seen any right wing groups threatening violence to the speaker and to the University if she is allowed to speak. I'm sure you have some links to this happening, right?
One more point? If any right wing groups do this, we won't defend them, we will criticize and demonize them....unlike the left with ANTIFA.
I can't believe you are equating someone criticizing CUNY with what ANTIFA does.
I think you are responding to the wrong post and the wrong poster my friend...I never wrote anything at all about either of your points...my post was about the need for more free speech in the world...the worst thing that we can do as a society is force rubbish such as Ann Coulter or Milo what ever the frick his name is into the shadows....cockroaches can't survive without shadows and darkness....Milo is a great example....as long as his only exposure was like minded people on Breitbart where they could stroke one another off he was on a meteoric path....as soon as he started getting some light from the rest of the world he proved to be the non-threat, Joanne Rivers of his generation.
The left is being played like a fiddle here....they are responding in a Pavlovian manner by barking every time that someone like Ann Coulter opens her mouth....it is the only way that Ann Coulter has a voice is by making the left jump...and they willingly oblige her every time. They should simply allow them all the time in the world to self destruct as they surely will because there is no substance to them at all....
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:40 am to DawgsLife
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So far, I haven't seen any right wing groups threatening violence to the speaker and to the University if she is allowed to speak. I'm sure you have some links to this happening, right?
Although I must add....there is no equivalent from the right because the right would not have anyone speak at one of their institutions that would not result in a circle jerk....let some flamboyant homosexual show up at a Baptist church in Hahira, Georgia and start explaining the virtues of anal sex among men and I think you would see a very similar reaction among your right as you do among the left....the difference is that leftist institutions will even consider allowing someone with differing opinions to speak...
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:44 am to germandawg
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I think you are responding to the wrong post and the wrong poster my friend...I never wrote anything at all about either of your points...my post was about the need for more free speech in the world...
Fair enough. So, I take it you condemn the actions of ANTIFA?
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The left is being played like a fiddle here....they are responding in a Pavlovian manner by barking every time that someone like Ann Coulter opens her mouth....it is the only way that Ann Coulter has a voice is by making the left jump...and they willingly oblige her every time. They should simply allow them all the time in the world to self destruct as they surely will because there is no substance to them at all....
I am not an Ann Coulter fan, however, I would disagree that all of her ideas have no substance.
In fairness, the right responds in much the same way.
It's almost comical how when the right says anything...anything at all the left comes out totally against it. Then when the left says anything...anything at all...the right comes out against it. It doesn't matter what it is..the other side is against it.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:48 am to germandawg
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Although I must add....there is no equivalent from the right because the right would not have anyone speak at one of their institutions that would not result in a circle jerk..
Right leaning institutions? I had no idea they existed outside of private institutions. What public college or University would be considered right leaning?
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.let some flamboyant homosexual show up at a Baptist church in Hahira, Georgia and start explaining the virtues of anal sex among men and I think you would see a very similar reaction among your right as you do among the left.
You are comparing a church to a college/university? Seriously?
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the difference is that leftist institutions will even consider allowing someone with differing opinions to speak...
And then cancel them ala Berkeley? But again....you want to compare publicly funded, tax funded colleges and universities with private universities and churches?
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:53 am to DawgsLife
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And then cancel them ala Berkeley? But again....you want to compare publicly funded, tax funded colleges and universities with private universities and churches?
No my friend...I am talking about the reactions of the people involved...I am suggesting that churches should invite controversial speakers as a university surely should...the comparison is how the individuals involved would react....
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:57 am to CommoDawg
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People who excessively demonize Sharia are hilarious
People who support Sharia being allowed in America in any shape or form should have their throat slit...
Posted on 4/24/17 at 7:58 am to DawgsLife
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Fair enough. So, I take it you condemn the actions of ANTIFA?
Yes, violence will shift support for your cause to the center no matter if your cause is extremely leftist or right....violence is a bad idea.
That being said do not discount the ability of leftists and those on the right to instigate violence in order to further their own cause....knowing that is a great way to get the middle off the fence and on your side it has and will be used to do just that....
And finally opposition to fascism ALWAYS ends up in serious violence...because fascists want violence....I can't think of a single fascist movement in the history of the world that didn't end in serious violence and bunches of deaths if the fascists gained any legitimacy....
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:01 am to germandawg
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No my friend...I am talking about the reactions of the people involved...I am suggesting that churches should invite controversial speakers as a university surely should...the comparison is how the individuals involved would react....
No, they shouldn't. A church is a private entity. The colleges and universities are publicly funded. there is a big difference. We have countless examples of how institutions of higher learning, that for may, many years have flaunted their openness to dissent and open mindedness shutting down free speech. Churches have a particular viewpoint, and do not receive public funds, so there is HUGE difference.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:08 am to DawgsLife
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No my friend...I am talking about the reactions of the people involved...I am suggesting that churches should invite controversial speakers as a university surely should...the comparison is how the individuals involved would react....
No, they shouldn't. A church is a private entity. The colleges and universities are publicly funded. there is a big difference. We have countless examples of how institutions of higher learning, that for may, many years have flaunted their openness to dissent and open mindedness shutting down free speech. Churches have a particular viewpoint, and do not receive public funds, so there is HUGE difference.
I made a mistake...I meant to type that I am not suggesting churches do anything...
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:27 am to germandawg
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I made a mistake...I meant to type that I am not suggesting churches do anything...
Ah! I got you! Thanks for the clarification!
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:29 am to braindeadboxer
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People who support Sharia being allowed in America in any shape or form should have their throat slit...
May-an! That escalated in a hurry.
While I do not support Sharia coming here, it would seem your reaction is a bit extreme.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:32 am to DawgsLife
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May-an! That escalated in a hurry.
While I do not support Sharia coming here, it would seem your reaction is a bit extreme
No it isn't. They at the very least should be tried and hanged.
Posted on 4/24/17 at 8:49 am to bencoleman
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" She is someone who has said, clearly, she thinks throwing rocks at cars in Israel is a good thing,"
CLEARLY!!!
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