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re: Seattle passes law to fine residents and businesses for throwing away food
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:50 pm to Asgard Device
Posted on 9/24/14 at 7:50 pm to Asgard Device
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Do you think they cheer for hurricanes to hit the South?
Umm, yes. Have you heard how they talk about the south?
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Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:19 pm to northshorebamaman
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As if the South is a fricking brain trust.
Maybe not but we are freer than Seattle.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 8:27 pm to Jake88
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Maybe not but we are freer than Seattle.
My cousins from Seattle had their minds blown when they came down to Louisiana to visit and rolled through their first police military checkpoint.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:45 pm to dante
Garbage disposal.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 9:57 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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That predicted huge landscape changing earthquake needs to happen soon.
I don't. San Francisco is awesome. Sure, their prosperity makes them have too much free time and come up with some less than stellar ideas, but geographically, it's pretty sweet.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:00 pm to dante
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My garbage men don't speak English.
Mine couldn't calculate 10 % of anything if they had to.
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:00 pm to upgrayedd
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So what are people supposed to do with their old food?
That line about "compostable" material wasn't throw away. That's what you do with old food. Compost it.
They have mini compost bins you can put on your counter and/or bring down to the building's compost bin. Of course, all these with other things make places like SF stupid expensive and push out lower wage workers, but they can be very nice places to be.
Is that sustainable? That's debated all the time, but for a visit, you can't beat the weather/views.
This post was edited on 9/24/14 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 9/24/14 at 10:32 pm to Jake88
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Maybe not but we are freer than Seattle.
I guess it depends on how you define it. I feel much freer here than I ever felt in Alabama.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:22 am to dante
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dante
Seattle passes law to fine residents and businesses for throwing away food
...in the trash can.
Seattle has a food compost recycling program.
LINK
Landfill space cost money. The trash service in Seattle is city owned. Its perfectly reasonable for the city to want food disposed of in compost containers rather than trash containers.
If you want to put your food in a landfill you still can - you'll just need to buy your own landfill or bring it to a private landfill.
This post was edited on 9/25/14 at 5:23 am
Posted on 9/25/14 at 5:24 am to FalseProphet
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Are they going to maintain the contents of the trashcan separate and uncontaminated so that you can challenge the fine against you?
crissakes!
If you have the time to challenge a $1 fine you have the time to put your food waste into the proper bin!
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:04 am to dante
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I have never understood why schools do not donate the unused food to local charities/homeless shelters.
It is illegal, as it is illegal for restaurants to do so as well.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 6:14 am to dante
Since when can a garbage man even tell what 10% is? They are not exactly hired for their math abilities. Ye gads!
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:08 am to SpidermanTUba
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Landfill space cost money. The trash service in Seattle is city owned. Its perfectly reasonable for the city to want food disposed of in compost containers rather than trash containers.
Wait a sec, do you think a city run composting program is more cost efficient than a landfill? Lol!
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:18 am to Jimbeaux
Yes
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:26 am to SpidermanTUba
You are either seriously uninformed, or a willfull koolaid drinker, or both.
Compostable material in modern landfills is beneficial. Recycling costs money. That fact is the unmentionable of the ecowarrior citizen soldier class.
Compostable material in modern landfills is beneficial. Recycling costs money. That fact is the unmentionable of the ecowarrior citizen soldier class.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 9:31 am to SpidermanTUba
Guess where they send huge amounts of unusable/unwanted/extra recycled material? Either a landfill or an incinerator.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 10:55 am to Jimbeaux
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Recycling costs money.
And landfills are free?
Recycling food waste is easy. You just let it sit there for a while.
Posted on 9/25/14 at 11:00 am to Jimbeaux
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Guess where they send huge amounts of unusable/unwanted/extra recycled material? Either a landfill or an incinerator.
Guess where Seattle's food waste goes?
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What goes in as yard waste and food scraps will emerge two months later as a mountain of loamy compost sold by the bag at garden centers throughout the Pacific Northwest by Cedar Grove Composting.
LINK
Jeez, sorry that some general remark you heard about recycling a while back on FOX News doesn't apply in this case!
Posted on 9/25/14 at 12:46 pm to SpidermanTUba
You will simply believe anything you're told, wont you, as long as it supports your narrative.
Do you know how much compostable food material is produced in a city every single day? How do you think that stuff gets separated and shipped to the compost areas? Magic? No, trucks burning fuel and lots of labor. What about that packaging process? You think that magically happens with no cost? And finally, how much kitchen compost is actually being purchased in those big bags? You think it's enough to make a dent in the massive volume that is produced daily?
I'm speaking of these things as a Proponent of recycling. I have my own composter in the back yard. The point is that it absolutely does cost more money to handle waste in this way, and it does not really make a huge difference if compostables are placed in a landfill. The fines for not separating compost is absurd government over reach.
You want to make a difference, we need to find a way to reduce plastic and hard metal waste. Over packaging is costly and unnecessary.
Do you know how much compostable food material is produced in a city every single day? How do you think that stuff gets separated and shipped to the compost areas? Magic? No, trucks burning fuel and lots of labor. What about that packaging process? You think that magically happens with no cost? And finally, how much kitchen compost is actually being purchased in those big bags? You think it's enough to make a dent in the massive volume that is produced daily?
I'm speaking of these things as a Proponent of recycling. I have my own composter in the back yard. The point is that it absolutely does cost more money to handle waste in this way, and it does not really make a huge difference if compostables are placed in a landfill. The fines for not separating compost is absurd government over reach.
You want to make a difference, we need to find a way to reduce plastic and hard metal waste. Over packaging is costly and unnecessary.
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