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re: "Scientists sound alarm over ocean acidification" [CO2 related]
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:12 am to sugar71
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:12 am to sugar71
I don't know any right-wingers or anyone else--not one soul--freaking out about Ebola. You need to hang around different people. Or maybe you're just making it up.
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Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:17 am to SpidermanTUba
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It's not really a question of belief.
If you're going to use it in politics, belief is absolutely essential.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:30 am to SpidermanTUba
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3. Use the $$$ generated from oil and natural gas royalities to fund research into "green energy"
That's not an idea "the so called enviromentalists" have ever had, right?
it doesn't matter whose idea it is as long as it works. Most enviromentalist want to invest in clean energy but they would rather tax rich ppl or raise energy bills on poor people to do it.
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Its not "broken". Congestion is a result of the laws of supply and demand - people will balance the advantages of living further from urban centers with the penalty imposed by traffic. If you build more lanes from Baton Rouge to Gonzales, its not ultimately going to make traffic better - it will ultimately just cause more people to move to Gonzales until the traffic becomes just as bad and in the end - MORE miles driven, not less.
you are literally too stupid to argue with
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. reinstitute the hybrid vehicle tax credit that expired in 2011 for regular hybrids.
That's not an idea "the so called enviromentalists" have ever had, right?
again doesn't matter whose idea it is. The hybrid tax credit was proven to lower the cost of a hybrid. If there was still a tax credit the price difference between a hybrid ford fusion and regular for fusion for example would only be a $1000. A $1000 is easily recovered over the life of the car, $5000 not so much.
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. Approve more clean diesel and LNG engines for vehicles.
So your "solution" is really just to continue to acidify the oceans at about half the rate we are now, and be done with it?
HOLY CRAP ON A POOL RAFT! You are retarded
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:43 am to SpidermanTUba
He was talking about the attitude. Idiot
Posted on 10/9/14 at 7:49 am to SpidermanTUba
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You balk, but this seems to be the same attitude towards "progress" that left wingers want to assign to our deficit spending.
I don't really see how deficit spending acidifies the oceans.
Maybe you can explain.
Jeebus freak!
He was talking about your attitude. Instead of saying yeah WeeWee that sounds like a good starting point and moving forward in the discussion, you want to argue over whose idea it was. So instead of winning support for a plan that might reduce CO2 emissions by half you get pissy and pull your normal act.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:00 am to WeeWee
Natural Gas is not clean.
Fracking for natural gas releases so much methane it's probably dirtier than coal.
Fracking for natural gas releases so much methane it's probably dirtier than coal.
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:05 am to samson'sseed
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Natural Gas is not clean.
Fracking for natural gas releases so much methane it's probably dirtier than coal.
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natural gas produces half as much carbon dioxide, less than a third as much nitrogen oxides, and one percent as much sulfur oxides at the power plant.2 In addition, the process of extraction, treatment, and transport of the natural gas to the power plant generates additional emissions.
CH3 does not contribute to the ocean acidification
Posted on 10/9/14 at 8:31 am to samson'sseed
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Fracking for natural gas releases so much methane it's probably dirtier than coal.
I keep hearing that Republicans are anti-science, but then leftists post this absolute nonsense. Posted on 10/9/14 at 12:29 pm to TK421
Don't normally post much, but what we covered in class today was particularly relevant to this discussion.
Yes, we know the bicarbonate mechanism that's supposed to be acidifying our oceans. The more CO2, the more H+ ions are going to be released, but what no one has mentioned is the extremely high concentration of salts in the oceans, which act as a "super buffer".
The amount of CO2 that would have to dissolve into our oceans to create more H+ ions than the ocean salt buffers could handle is ridiculously large. All goes back to fundamental chemical/biochemical properties.
Yes, we know the bicarbonate mechanism that's supposed to be acidifying our oceans. The more CO2, the more H+ ions are going to be released, but what no one has mentioned is the extremely high concentration of salts in the oceans, which act as a "super buffer".
The amount of CO2 that would have to dissolve into our oceans to create more H+ ions than the ocean salt buffers could handle is ridiculously large. All goes back to fundamental chemical/biochemical properties.
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