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"Scientists sound alarm over ocean acidification" [CO2 related]
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:05 pm
ill just drop this little gem off right here and be on my way...
LINK
quote:
Ocean acidification has risen by a quarter since pre-industrial times as a result of rising carbon emissions, casting a shadow over the seas as a future source of food, scientists warned on Wednesday.
In the past two centuries, the sea's acidity level has risen 26 percent, mirroring the proportion of carbon dioxide it absorbs from the air, they said in a report to the UN Convention on Biological Diversity (CBD) meeting in South Korea
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This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 3:22 pm
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Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:09 pm to BobBoucher
Color me surprised.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:11 pm to BobBoucher
Let's say I believe this. What would these people have us do to severely reduce carbon dioxide?
How much carbon dioxide is emitted by the billions of people on earth each day?
How much carbon dioxide is emitted by the billions of people on earth each day?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:11 pm to BobBoucher
So let me see if I have this right.
A bunch of scientists are placing a massive carbon footprint in South Korea just to tell us that things are bad? Couldn't they have phoned that in?
A bunch of scientists are placing a massive carbon footprint in South Korea just to tell us that things are bad? Couldn't they have phoned that in?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:15 pm to Gray Tiger
My God, we need to get off of this planet. Our children may be the last generation to survive here.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:19 pm to BobBoucher
Gots to keeps dat research money coming in.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:21 pm to Scoop
Man-Bear-Pig will save us!!!
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:27 pm to BobBoucher
quote:By a quarter?
Ocean acidification has risen by a quarter since pre-industrial times
So, assuming a baseline pH of 8.2, most folks would presume ""a quarter"" to mean that pH is now 6.1.
Perhaps BobBoucher is like most folks?
In actuality the bullshite OP wording belies the fact that IAW claims, "ocean" pH has dropped from ~8.2 to ~8.1. Doesn't sound quite so dramatic when expressed in standard manner . . . . and that is assuming the baseline is even accurate.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:27 pm to BobBoucher
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the sea's acidity level has risen 26 percent, mirroring the proportion of carbon dioxide it absorbs from the air,
I'm shocked that absorption between liquid and gas phases we learn about in chemistry classes it true!!!
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:29 pm to BobBoucher
It's almost as if environmentalists, HAVE NO IDEA WHAT THE frick THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:32 pm to NC_Tigah
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So, assuming a baseline pH of 8.2, most folks would presume ""a quarter"" to mean that pH is now 6.1.
To be fair, most folks don't understand Log scales.
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and that is assuming the baseline is even accurate.
The chemistry of carbonic acid formation is pretty well understood. Whether the increase in acidity is really a problem is a different question, but the acidity does increase with an increase in CO2 absorption.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:39 pm to TK421
quote:That's why the f*cking scarepiece author wrote it the way he did.
To be fair, most folks don't understand Log scales.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:43 pm to TK421
quote:In vitro. Of course, in instance of the oceans, there is a contributory biologic equation.
The chemistry of carbonic acid formation is pretty well understood.
quote:and what happens to that oceanic CO2 as temperatures increase?
acidity does increase with an increase in CO2 absorption
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:51 pm to weagle99
What about the chemical run-off of 6 billion people heading to the sea?
No effect at all?
No effect at all?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 3:58 pm to NC_Tigah
quote:
That's why the f*cking scarepiece author wrote it the way he did.
Maybe, but what he said he also factually correct.
quote:
and what happens to that oceanic CO2 as temperatures increase?
My guess is that CO2 absorption would go down as the water temperature increases. The relationship is obviously not linear in either case.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:01 pm to goatmilker
so.. Can I get a mass balance on this? Sounds like CO2 is going into he oceans AND collecting int he atmosphere causing temperature rise.
quote:Im guess all the crap we put in is having a more direct effect. But why count that when it doesn't add to the crisis propaganda?
What about the chemical run-off of 6 billion people heading to the sea? No effect at all?
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:36 pm to TK421
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TK421
Your sig quote is fricking awesome, sir.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:40 pm to BobBoucher
It's gonna take allot of money and loss of personal freedoms to fix this.
Posted on 10/8/14 at 4:53 pm to TK421
quote:No need to guess. It's one of the few Laws of science.
My guess is that CO2 absorption would go down as the water temperature increases
It is also THE explanation for atmospheric CO2's tracking of temperature in preindustrial samples.
BtW, I agree with the previous poster's comment re: your sig quote . . . . very good!
Posted on 10/8/14 at 5:00 pm to NC_Tigah
These people are detestable. Along with all the people who willfully believe their bullshite.
This post was edited on 10/8/14 at 5:01 pm
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