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School Scores
Posted on 4/18/17 at 1:40 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 1:40 pm
I've been looking at BRAC's recently released scorecard for school districts in the area. When I look at EBR's scorecard on page 4 something jumps out at me. Students with disabilities is really crushing that district's performance scores.
Is judging kids who are likely mentally handicapped a good way to judge if a school system is performing? I don't know this just seems like a really flawed way to judge school districts. Plus, some school districts would seem likely to have a much higher percentage of disabled kids than others. EBR and Jefferson would fall into the high percentage because of the large private school numbers both districts possess. Just seems like kids with disabilities should be on their own scorecard or something.
The other question for people in the know is why when we get to high school do we change our evaluation process from basically 100% on assessment testing results to only 25% and use stuff that seems out of a school system's control such as graduation rates, a diploma index (whatever that is) and ACT scores (if the kid isn't going to college wouldn't he just put his name on it and turn it in)?
Just curious on everyone's thoughts on the matter.
Is judging kids who are likely mentally handicapped a good way to judge if a school system is performing? I don't know this just seems like a really flawed way to judge school districts. Plus, some school districts would seem likely to have a much higher percentage of disabled kids than others. EBR and Jefferson would fall into the high percentage because of the large private school numbers both districts possess. Just seems like kids with disabilities should be on their own scorecard or something.
The other question for people in the know is why when we get to high school do we change our evaluation process from basically 100% on assessment testing results to only 25% and use stuff that seems out of a school system's control such as graduation rates, a diploma index (whatever that is) and ACT scores (if the kid isn't going to college wouldn't he just put his name on it and turn it in)?
Just curious on everyone's thoughts on the matter.
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Posted on 4/18/17 at 2:41 pm to cssamerican
I'm a high school sped teacher.
No and giving the intellectually disabled kids standardized test is nothing short of criminal.
They used to be, but as usual, shitty people started WAY over identifying kids to get them off their score card.
Many of them do. We also give non college bound kids the ACT work keys which can offset their ACT score and is meaningful to them.
Last, the new ESSA passed by the fed requires us to only testkids 3 times. 1 elementary, 1 middle, and 1 high school with ACT/ACT work keys counting. BUT in Louisiana, we test every year. We waste millions on standardized testing.
Why? Follow the money. Too many in our legislature are getting kickbacks from testing organizations. Anyone ever wonder why Bill Gates is for testing? We need his computers to test.
Our kids are for sell to the highest bidder, and it's sickening.
ETA: Also note, not all does kids are equal. Intellectually disabled kids are roped in with "ADHD" kids in terms of sped numbers.
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s judging kids who are likely mentally handicapped a good way to judge if a school system is performing
No and giving the intellectually disabled kids standardized test is nothing short of criminal.
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ust seems like kids with disabilities should be on their own scorecard or something.
They used to be, but as usual, shitty people started WAY over identifying kids to get them off their score card.
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ACT scores (if the kid isn't going to college wouldn't he just put his name on it and turn it in)?
Many of them do. We also give non college bound kids the ACT work keys which can offset their ACT score and is meaningful to them.
Last, the new ESSA passed by the fed requires us to only testkids 3 times. 1 elementary, 1 middle, and 1 high school with ACT/ACT work keys counting. BUT in Louisiana, we test every year. We waste millions on standardized testing.
Why? Follow the money. Too many in our legislature are getting kickbacks from testing organizations. Anyone ever wonder why Bill Gates is for testing? We need his computers to test.
Our kids are for sell to the highest bidder, and it's sickening.
ETA: Also note, not all does kids are equal. Intellectually disabled kids are roped in with "ADHD" kids in terms of sped numbers.
This post was edited on 4/18/17 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 4/18/17 at 3:04 pm to CoachChappy
CoachChappy speaks the truth.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:05 pm to CoachChappy
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They used to be, but as usual, shitty people started WAY over identifying kids to get them off their score card.
Do schools and or parents get more money if a kid is "special needs"? If so, labeling them that way is a scam to get more money.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:41 pm to CoachChappy
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They used to be, but as usual, shitty people started WAY over identifying kids to get them off their score card.
Then fix THAT problem, don't create another problem and screw more stuff up.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:55 pm to ChEgrad
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Do schools and or parents get more money if a kid is "special needs"? If so, labeling them that way is a scam to get more money.
Parents most certainly do. We just had a child re-evaluated and she openly admitted that in 2nd grade her mom told her to come to school and act crazy.
School systems get more money, but not enough to be worth taking a hit goes high population of sped students.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:57 pm to cssamerican
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Then fix THAT problem, don't create another problem and screw more stuff up.
Terrible people will always find away toscam the system. Also, education has WAY to much govt involved to be efficient
Posted on 4/18/17 at 4:58 pm to CoachChappy
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Also note, not all does kids are equal. Intellectually disabled kids are roped in with "ADHD" kids in terms of sped numbers.
I don't know if it affects these stats, but there are tons of kids collecting disability for nebulous "learning disability". Just another way for trash people to get free money.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 5:26 pm to biglego
The problem is we are using these scores to evaluate our school systems. How can we evaluate a system when we are not removing the mentally handicapped from the scores. Why are things other than assessment tests used to determine high school scores. What we are getting is a flawed accountability system to judge our school systems. I don't see how the school systems or the public is supposed to use this data when it starts off flawed. The whole things seems like a waste.
Posted on 4/18/17 at 7:42 pm to biglego
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I don't know if it affects these stats, but there are tons of kids collecting disability for nebulous "learning disability".
It does; believe me.
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