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re: Salon removes pro-pedophile articles!
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:29 am to SlowFlowPro
Per your quote that you high lighted
It should NEVER be talked about in terms of being a sexual orientation! That is the normalization of it!.
LINK
It becomes a protected status.
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I wanted desperately to be friends with people who shared my sexual orientation
It should NEVER be talked about in terms of being a sexual orientation! That is the normalization of it!.
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It becomes a protected status.
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Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:33 am to Jjdoc
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It should NEVER be talked about in terms of being a sexual orientation!
that's utterly retarded. regardless of how icky and against proper society it is, it is still a sexual orientation
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That is the normalization of it!.
read the rest of his commentary. he's not saying it's a good thing and he readily admits how terrible it all is
focus on the part about how you can't push it into the shadows b/c then you're lumping active predator pedophiles in the same place of non-predator people who lost the genetic-psychological lottery and struggle with something they didn't create
would you rather a society where all persons who are attracted to children be honest about it or one where you never know if a person is a pedo?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:33 am to Pettifogger
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He said the guy wants it labeled as a sexual identity. Which is a reach probably.
That tells me you use the same approach as all leftists do. You opposed the narrative without reading the content. The guy himself labels his "condition" as a Sexual Orientation.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:36 am to Jjdoc
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The guy himself labels his "condition" as a Sexual Orientation.
if you deny this, you're arguing with reality
now it's gross, but it's 100% true
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's utterly retarded. regardless of how icky and against proper society it is, it is still a sexual orientation
No it's not. The minute it becomes such, that person is protected by 100% of the law. Even a daycare could not refuse to hire him based on that much like a christian baker can't refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:38 am to Jjdoc
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That tells me you use the same approach as all leftists do. You opposed the narrative without reading the content. The guy himself labels his "condition" as a Sexual Orientation.
No, it tells you I only reread snippets before posting. Hence "probably." I doubt the guy wants to check a box that he's pedophile in filling out questionnaires. I think it's more likely he just wants people to know that he isn't electing the feelings he has. But sure, if he says he wants it to be a sexual identity, we'll take him at face value.
I'll that said, I'm not the moron on here going "ew gross, Salon is pro-pedophile because they put up a thoughtful piece from a guy who hates his pedophile urges!"
Salon is shitty because they take down a good piece to further their political cause.
You're shitty because you'll blindly regurgitate dumb content to further your political cause.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:39 am to Jjdoc
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Even a daycare could not refuse to hire him
oh, like totally
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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that's utterly retarded. regardless of how icky and against proper society it is, it is still a sexual orientation
Well I guess that depends on how you want to define sexual orientations and if you think that should be contrasted from mental disorders.
Let's say this persons pedophilia is derived from his own trauma as a youth. Is it still a sexual orientation or an impulse derived from this trauma and do we want to contrast the two or conflate the two? And based on that choice, how do we want to affect public perception and ultimately policy based on that distinction or lack there of.
So again, what's "retarded"?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:40 am to Jjdoc
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The minute it becomes such, that person is protected by 100% of the law
you're being absurd
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Even a daycare could not refuse to hire him based on that much like a christian baker can't refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
will never happen. N-E-V-E-R
go read the case law on religious behaviors that violate criminal law. they're still illegal. the same legal argument will apply here
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:40 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you deny this, you're arguing with reality
No, the reality is exactly what I stated. If it is ever changed and recognized as that, it becomes a protected status. Thus an accepted thing and protected by law.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:43 am to Turbeauxdog
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Let's say this persons pedophilia is derived from his own trauma as a youth. Is it still a sexual orientation or an impulse derived from this trauma and do we want to contrast the two or conflate the two?
males develop their sexual preferences and traits as youths
that's where fetishism emerges from
that's almost assuredly why there is such a legacy effect of sexual abuse on males
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And based on that choice, how do we want to affect public perception and ultimately policy based on that distinction or lack there of.
i think the distinction is largely irrelevant
you're arguing with the past that's already occurred and that we can't change, when we have an issue with the present/future that we can control. dealing with the reality of this situation in the present is what matters
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:43 am to Jjdoc
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If it is ever changed and recognized as that, it becomes a protected status. Thus an accepted thing and protected by law.
so why is polygamy still illegal?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:44 am to Pettifogger
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You're shitty because you'll blindly regurgitate dumb content to further your political cause.
There's my leftist friend!
No... this has zero to do with politics, yet politics are involved. This should never be considered normal. I don't care what party you cheer for in the privacy of your home.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:44 am to SlowFlowPro
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so why is polygamy still illegal?
No strong and organized advocacy groups.
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 10:45 am
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:45 am to SlowFlowPro
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if you deny this, you're arguing with reality now it's gross, but it's 100% true
Arguing what we want labels to mean and which characteristics we want to use to define those branded with those labels is arguing with reality?
We are talking about fabricated constructs to group ideas, their reality is how we define them.
What were you saying about "retarded" again?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:47 am to Jjdoc
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No... this has zero to do with politics, yet politics are involved. This should never be considered normal. I don't care what party you cheer for in the privacy of your home.
It has everything to do with politics. Salon wouldn't remove the article without Milo stepping in it, and you wouldn't be discussing it today if someone on your side wasn't being attacked over the same subject.
Or am I to believe the Gateway Pundit blog is just revisiting these subjects because they like weighing in on sociological issues periodically? Or maybe I'm forgetting about all the times you brought weighty subjects to the board for discussion without political motivation?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:49 am to SlowFlowPro
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males develop their sexual preferences and traits as youths that's where fetishism emerges from that's almost assuredly why there is such a legacy effect of sexual abuse on males
So a foot fetish is now a sexual orientation?
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i think the distinction is largely irrelevant
Based on your opinion or is this another one of those "realities" people are denying if they disagree with you?
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you're arguing with the past that's already occurred and that we can't change, when we have an issue with the present/future that we can control. dealing with the reality of this situation in the present is what matters
How we got to the situation doesn't impact how we handle the situation?
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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The minute it becomes such, that person is protected by 100% of the law
you're being absurd
I linked you to the law.
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Civil Service Reform Act The Civil Service Reform Act of 1978 (CSRA), as amended, also protects federal government applicants and employees from discrimination in personnel actions (see "Prohibited Personnel Practices" https://www.opm.gov/ovrsight/proidx.asp) based on race, color, sex, religion, national origin, age, disability, marital status, political affiliation, or on conduct which does not adversely affect the performance of the applicant or employee -- which can include sexual orientation or gender identity.
Another link.... NOLO
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Almost half the states and the District of Columbia have laws that currently prohibit sexual orientation discrimination in both public and private jobs: California, Colorado, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Iowa, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Jersey, New Mexico, New York, Oregon, Rhode Island, Vermont, Washington, and Wisconsin.
If it is labeled as such.... it becomes protected and you can not refute that.
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Even a daycare could not refuse to hire him based on that much like a christian baker can't refuse to bake a cake for a gay wedding.
will never happen. N-E-V-E-R
So said those that promoted homosexuality. It would not be forced on churches and people with religious feelings towards it.
YET..... here were are and you will post the same tired arguments that history shows you are wrong.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:58 am to Pettifogger
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and you wouldn't be discussing it today if someone on your side wasn't being attacked over the same subject.
Wrong. I'm on record here speaking out against it. In fact, I have talked about the issue of the push to normalize this. Calling out your side for hypocrisy is a different matter.
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Or maybe I'm forgetting about all the times you brought weighty subjects to the board for discussion without political motivation?
Yes... you are
Posted on 2/21/17 at 11:08 am to TheRodFather
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. It was in line to be one of the next culture war issues and now they have to walk it back.
No it was not. Republicans talking point based on a slippery slope logically fallacy
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