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Salon removes pro-pedophile articles!
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:50 am
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:50 am
Looks like the left has decided to join the world in fighting against it. At least it has for now.
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The ultra-liberal website, Salon, has begun to remove articles from their website that attempted to justify pedophilia. Yes, you read that correctly, Salon published content normalizing Pedophilia.
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It all began in September last year with the article “I’m a pedophile, but not a monster,” which featured self-identified pedophile Todd Nickerson of the website “Virtuous Pedophiles” classify his sexual disorder as a “sexual identity” that needs to be met with some kind of compassion.
But.... it's archived
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The URL to read the article: https://web.archive.org/web/20151219064006/https://www.salon.com/2015/09/21/im_a_pedophile_but_not_a_monster
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:52 am to Jjdoc
But Trump said something mean........and he can spell Russian.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:54 am to Jjdoc
Does anyone doubt that the lefts beef with Milo is political and not philosophical?
This post was edited on 2/21/17 at 9:55 am
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:54 am to Wtodd
And JJdoc copy and pastes some bullshite news. It's a new day!
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:56 am to Cromulent
And you still can't comprehend
Posted on 2/21/17 at 9:58 am to Jjdoc
Two things
1) Faulting Salon for that article is dumb. It's actually a pretty interesting discussion piece and it's tough to skew it as pro-pedophile. It's entirely about a guy acknowledging his mental illness and his efforts to keep it in check. Which of course, is a real thing in society.
2) If Salon really removed it, that is absurd.
1) Faulting Salon for that article is dumb. It's actually a pretty interesting discussion piece and it's tough to skew it as pro-pedophile. It's entirely about a guy acknowledging his mental illness and his efforts to keep it in check. Which of course, is a real thing in society.
2) If Salon really removed it, that is absurd.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:00 am to Pettifogger
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Faulting Salon for that article is dumb. It's actually a pretty interesting discussion piece and it's tough to skew it as pro-pedophile. It's entirely about a guy acknowledging his mental illness and his efforts to keep it in check. Which of course, is a real thing in society.
yeah i think it's an important article for people to read
the guy talks about how shitty it is and how he doesn't act out on his urges and how much it kills him inside that he's attracted to children
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If Salon really removed it, that is absurd.
absurd, shitty, and dangerous. we need to have real discussions on this stuff and not just go "ew yucky" and ignore it. that's how we not only avoid real societal soutions to this problem, but marginalizing discussion pushes this to the fringe where it's impossible to admit it or even seek help for those with the mental illness. that's not going to lead to positive results
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:02 am to Revelator
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Does anyone doubt that the lefts beef with Milo is political and not philosophical?
The left defends Roman Polanski, Gore Vidal and Howard Zinn, what do you think
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:03 am to SlowFlowPro
This is the side sane people fall on. I don't have a problem with Salon, Milo, or anyone having a voice.
I might have a problem with their opinions and I might even despise them for it. But I don't want to silence anyone.
I might have a problem with their opinions and I might even despise them for it. But I don't want to silence anyone.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:04 am to Jjdoc
If there is one positive outcome from milo's attention seeking narcissism, is that it forced the left to temporarily come out against pedophilia. It was in line to be one of the next culture war issues and now they have to walk it back. Not because it is sickening and immoral, but only because it came from someone associated to the fringe right which is considered more immoral than kiddy rape.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:06 am to Bjorn Cyborg
If Milo was really downplaying pedophilia, he would be in a far worse position than Salon. But I don't think he was. I don't think Milo was adding to a constructive conversation about the abuse of children (and I think Salon was doing that), but I don't think he was condoning it either.
FWIW I hate almost everything else Salon has ever done.
FWIW I hate almost everything else Salon has ever done.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:07 am to Bjorn Cyborg
silence can be dangerous, though
this is one area where i truly think it's scary-dangerous to push silence because the effects of this behavior are so terrible and drastic. it's very mirrored to the "if you silence opposition to progressives, you're going to push it to the darkness of the internet where it will fester into extremism" scenario
there are people who are attracted to children who don't act out on these desires. many have a biological defect or psychological trauma from abuse as a child that has skewed them. if they don't rape children, they're not bad people, but we can't even say that without the "ewww gross" responses that silence the entire discussion. this leads to the non-predators who have these issues being pushed to the fringe, and that's only increasing the risk that they offend b/c they've been completely marginalized
this is one area where i truly think it's scary-dangerous to push silence because the effects of this behavior are so terrible and drastic. it's very mirrored to the "if you silence opposition to progressives, you're going to push it to the darkness of the internet where it will fester into extremism" scenario
there are people who are attracted to children who don't act out on these desires. many have a biological defect or psychological trauma from abuse as a child that has skewed them. if they don't rape children, they're not bad people, but we can't even say that without the "ewww gross" responses that silence the entire discussion. this leads to the non-predators who have these issues being pushed to the fringe, and that's only increasing the risk that they offend b/c they've been completely marginalized
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:12 am to Pettifogger
The guy is totally wanting it labeled a sexual identity.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:14 am to Cromulent
Jjdoc is either 8 years old or 80. I cant tell.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:17 am to Jjdoc
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The guy is totally wanting it labeled a sexual identity.
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After graduation I fell into the deepest pit of despair imaginable, one that lasted several years, and I’ve only just begun to pull myself out of it. You can’t experience that much blind terror and pain for that long without being seriously impacted by it. I still worked out every other day, so I was hurting constantly, since depression saps your brain of the feel-good chemicals that helps to counteract pain; but I felt something, and that was better than the emotional numbness that had overtaken me. Thus, my project to remake myself into a regular person a complete failure, I retreated inward like a kicked dog, often spending days on end in my bedroom. At the nadir of my depression I was contemplating suicide daily; some days I could think of little else. I found some relief in opiates, which I had to obtain illegally because doctors won’t prescribe them for depression and anxiety. The occasional hydrocodone gave me a moment of respite from the agony I was going through. I’d tried antidepressants, but they were a joke.
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In the midst of that dark era in my life, I discovered an unhealthy pedophile forum. Nothing illegal was happening there, but many of its most influential members were pro-contacters, meaning they believed that sex with children was theoretically OK and supported the elimination of age of consent laws. That forum still exists and I won’t name it here, but suffice it to say, I found myself taking up the same pro-contacter chants, if only to feel like I belonged somewhere. At the time it was all that was available in terms of an actual pedophile community, and I had nothing left to lose by joining the cause, misguided though it was, and even decided to out myself on that forum. Over the ensuing years, though, I was often at odds with the pro-contacters and flitted in and out of their clique; I wanted desperately to be friends with people who shared my sexual orientation, even if they held crazy beliefs, but I could never quite reconcile with their viewpoint.
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VirPed itself has become the go-to place for support for non-offending pedophiles and has been mentioned and endorsed everywhere from NPR, Salon and the Atlantic to the New York Times and Toronto Star. As its popularity increases, so too does its effectiveness. There are still holdouts, people who believe that pedophilic feelings should be crammed down into the most subterranean recesses of ourselves, never to be discussed in the open, but these folks are going the way of the dodo bird. Anyway, we’ve tried that. Take it from someone who has firsthand experience: it not only doesn’t work, it tends to make things far worse. Please repeat this mantra to yourself: a repressed, unhappy pedophile is a pedophile at risk.
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For better or worse—mostly worse—we have this sexuality, and unlike with most sexualities, there is no ethical way we can fully actualize our sexual longings. Our desires and feelings, if we are to remain upright, are doomed from the outset.
yeah he's really arguing that his is normal and should be accepted by society
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:24 am to SlowFlowPro
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ah he's really arguing that his is normal and should be accepted by society
That's not what he said.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:25 am to Pettifogger
So here we go again with the "we have to have the discussion".
We have already had that discussion. The outcome was it's wrong and should never be look at as normal. The article was a slant towards normalizing it through sympathy.
In that article, it clearly places it as an orientation.
Should it be listed as such, it will become a born that way, protected by current laws.
Then you should agree that the books promted in middle school should be removed! That Harry Hay should NOT be used in schools as a hero.
We have already had that discussion. The outcome was it's wrong and should never be look at as normal. The article was a slant towards normalizing it through sympathy.
In that article, it clearly places it as an orientation.
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In a new video released Tuesday, Salon featured Nickerson talking openly about the nature of his sexual disorder, which he classifies as an orientation
Should it be listed as such, it will become a born that way, protected by current laws.
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I don't think Milo was adding to a constructive conversation
Then you should agree that the books promted in middle school should be removed! That Harry Hay should NOT be used in schools as a hero.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:25 am to Turbeauxdog
so he's saying that giving labels to people sexually attracted to children is wrong?
if he's only arguing that, his point is retarded b/c he's arguing with labeling reality. i can't think that's his point
if he's only arguing that, his point is retarded b/c he's arguing with labeling reality. i can't think that's his point
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:27 am to Turbeauxdog
He said the guy wants it labeled as a sexual identity. Which is a reach probably. The guy wants to be able to discuss it with other people who don't act on it.
In the end, I don't care what it's classified as. It's an abnormal and potentially destructive characteristic. To the extent we can keep people like this from action through acknowledgment that they're not just totally sane people who are evil, I think it should be encouraged.
In the end, I don't care what it's classified as. It's an abnormal and potentially destructive characteristic. To the extent we can keep people like this from action through acknowledgment that they're not just totally sane people who are evil, I think it should be encouraged.
Posted on 2/21/17 at 10:28 am to SlowFlowPro
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so he's saying that giving labels to people sexually attracted to children is wrong
I hate to speak for people, but I imagine he believes it should be labeled a mental disorder not a sexual orientation as the author describes his condition in the paragraph you quoted.
I'm not sure how that is "retarded."
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