re: Rush Limbaugh pouts about potential black James Bond

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Except his number one employee and right hand man is black

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Yeah - but don;t you think it is condescending to call him "Snerdley"

Was Rush/the poli board upset when they cast a white guy as Khan in the last Star Trek movie?

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Was Rush/the poli board upset when they cast a white guy as Khan in the last Star Trek movie?

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You really think Khan is as well known as James fricking Bond?

There really is no comparison as far as popularity and name recognition for the two characters go. Hell, I didn't know who khan was before into darkness.

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That's an illogical reason.

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Wanting to make more money is not an illogical reason.

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Many black people already go to the James Bond movies even though James Bond has always been portrayed by a white man.

If James Bond is portrayed by a black man, how many more blacks will go compared to the number of people who won't go?

I refuse to watch the TV program Elementary because Watson is portrayed by a woman and I would refuse to go to a James Bond movie if James Bond is portrayed by a black man.

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I don't know if the viewers lost will outnumber the potential viewers gained. That's part of the risk in making a move like this. However, assuming the Sony execs thought of this and incorporated it into their forecasts, it doesn't make it an illogical move.

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That has nothing to do with racism and sexism.

It has to do with not liking them changing the "gender" or race of fictional white characters just so the role can be given to a woman or a black man not for a legitimate reason which would make the TV show or movie more entertaining.

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It inherently is racist and sexist. If it wasn't, you wouldn't notice the race or sex; you would simply notice the character being portrayed. I don't think all racism or sexism is bad, but let's be perfectly clear that what you just said it the definition of racism and/or sexism: noticing someone because of their race or sex and making a value judgment solely because of their race or sex.

You expecting something other than racist pandering as his response?

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If you believe that Superman or Batman being played by Idris Elba is somehow wrong, you are VERY racist. And not very smart.


I changed the character around, do you still have the same opinion?


Nobody wants to consider this?

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I have no issue with a black man playing superman or batman.

If you read comics, you will routinely see wholesale re-definitions of character. batman used to carry around a gun killing off people. Superman was a complete turd in the 70s.

These long running, multi-author works of fiction have to evolve otherwise they are left to be irrelevant.

And hollywood has always had a very liberal hand with characters such as james bond, superman or batman. Or really any book that a movie was based off of.

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I don't know if the viewers lost will outnumber the potential viewers gained. That's part of the risk in making a move like this. However, assuming the Sony execs thought of this and incorporated it into their forecasts, it doesn't make it an illogical move.

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old white males are the 2nd to last demographic hollywood cares about (old white females are probably last). if they go see a movie, they go see a movie that is playing. they don't seek out a specific movie, instead pick which has the best showtime and is most interesting to them.

they don't matter.

Here's a thired basic rule of marketing that you apparently don't know.

"A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush".

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I have no issue with a black man playing superman or batman.

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I do. Bro, I don't know how to tell you this but the comic book fan community would fricking riot if they were to cast a black man. It's not racism but moreso logistics and the back stories of the characters. They would see it as nothing more than a glorified social experiment fricking with things that make the Characters work.

Bruce Wayne, Clark Kent and their familes are the most WASPy characters in comic books and a black man with that add on is just out of place and unrealistic.

Batman has always been considered a lapsed episcopalian- read WASP,or catholic which is central to his parents characterics. So yeah, being white is central to his character.

Superman was raised in Kansas which is white as snow and from Krypton which was pretty much xenophobic, very isoated and very parnoid so they are all white which has always been a consistent factor throughout Superman's history.

A black actor in those roles shits all over the source material of the characters.

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If you read comics, you will routinely see wholesale re-definitions of character. batman used to carry around a gun killing off people. Superman was a complete turd in the 70s.

These long running, multi-author works of fiction have to evolve otherwise they are left to be irrelevant.

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These are always elseworld or rather alternate universe stories and not a part of the main canon universe and any change to that is always minor.

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What motives would a movie company have for putting a black guy in the role of Bond?

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I already gave the motive.

They would change the race of an iconic fictional white male character to a black man so they could give the role to a black man instead of a white man.

It's another form of Affirmative Action.