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RP: Cheney used 9/11 as excuse to invade Iraq for the benefit of Halliburton

Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:51 am
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:51 am
I'm really starting to like this Rand Paul guy more and more.

Neo-cons are going to have a field day with this one.

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Rand Paul: Dick Cheney used 9/11 as excuse to invade Iraq for the benefit of Halliburton
By Tom Boggioni
Monday, April 7, 2014 7:53 EDT


In a videotaped 2009 speech before student Republicans at Western Kentucky University, Rand Paul — who was just beginning his run for the Senate seat he eventually won — explained that former Vice President Dick Cheney, who counseled against war in Iraq in 1995, pushed for war following 9/11 to benefit his former employers at military contractor Halliburton.

In the video, discovered by David Corn at Mother Jones, Paul can be seen standing at a lectern describing Cheney’s opinion in 1995, when he said that invading Iraq would be, “a disaster, it would be vastly expensive, it’d be civil war, we would have no exit strategy.”

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There’s a great YouTube of Dick Cheney in 1995 defending [President] Bush Number One [and the decision not to invade Baghdad in the first Gulf war], and he goes on for about five minutes. He’s being interviewed, I think, by the American Enterprise Institute, and and he says it would be a disaster, it would be vastly expensive, it’d be civil war, we would have no exit strategy. He goes on and on for five minutes. Dick Cheney saying it would be a bad idea. And that’s why the first Bush didn’t go into Baghdad. Dick Cheney then goes to work for Halliburton. Makes hundreds of millions of dollars, their CEO. Next thing you know, he’s back in government and it’s a good idea to go into Iraq.


Paul then goes on to describe events following the 9/11 terrorist attack when, then CIA director, George Tenet is told by George W. Bush adviser Richard Perle that the attack had given them reason to invade Iraq, despite the fact that the intelligence had yet to show a connection:

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The day after 9/11, [CIA chief] George Tenet is going in the [White] House and [Pentagon adviser] Richard Perle is coming out of the White House. And George Tenet should know more about intelligence than anybody in the world, and the first thing Richard Perle says to him on the way out is, ‘We’ve got it, now we can go into Iraq.’ And George Tenet, who supposedly knows as much intelligence as anybody in the White House says, ‘Well, don’t we need to know that they have some connection to 9/11?’ And, he [Perle] says, ‘It doesn’t matter.’ It became an excuse. 9/11 became an excuse for a war they already wanted in Iraq.


Corn points out that the speech Paul was giving was not a one time event, describing Cheney’s desire for war.

In a videotaped 2008 Montana speech, also uncovered by Corn, Paul directly linked Cheney ‘s Halliburton “millions” to the 2001 Iraq war:

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It’s Dick Cheney in 1995 being interviewed on why they didn’t go into Baghdad the first time under the first [President] George Bush. And his arguments are exactly mirroring my dad’s arguments for why we shouldn’t have gone in this time. It would be chaos. There’d be a civil war. There’d be no exit strategy. And cost a blue bloody fortune in both lives and treasure. And this is Dick Cheney saying this. But, you know, a couple hundred million dollars later Dick Cheney earns from Halliburton, he comes back into government. Now Halliburton’s got a billion-dollar no-bid contract in Iraq. You know, you hate to be so cynical that you think some of these corporations are able to influence policy, but I think sometimes they are. Most of the people on these [congressional] committees have a million dollars in their bank account all from different military industrial contractors. We don’t want our defense to be defined by people who make money off of the weapons.


As Corn points out, there have long been suspicions that Dick Cheney used the post-9/11 war on Iraq as a way to thank Halliburton for making him a very wealthy man after stepping down as Secretary of Defense under former President George H.W. Bush.

In 2012, Corn writing for Mother Jones uncovered video of Mitt Romney telling wealthy donors that 47 percent of people would vote for Barack Obama because they were “dependent upon government.” The video was widely believed to be damaging to the Romney campaign.



Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:54 am to
He will win if he wins the nomination. He is the only GOP candidate who will.
This post was edited on 4/7/14 at 11:55 am
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:54 am to
This is news?
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 11:58 am to
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This is news?

A sitting Senator and possible candidate for Pres, accusing a vice president from his own party of lying to go to war for profit.

Yes, i'd say that is news worthy.

But if you are saying "this is news" as in this is what everyone expected all along, then yes i agree.
Posted by Bluefin
The Banana Stand
Member since Apr 2011
13257 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:00 pm to
It's good for Paul to be vocal about it, but he's basically saying something that everyone already knew for years.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
Top secret lab
Member since Feb 2004
52833 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:02 pm to
To be fair about the differences:

1) There was the 9/11 attacks

2) There was a cease fire agreement (surrender) by Saddam that was being violated and the inspection service for WMD was being thwarted.



I am not taking a "side" on the decision. But, to suggest that the only difference in the 2 time periods was the money earned by Cheney at Haliburton is bereft of plenitude.

Posted by NikolaiJakov
Moscow
Member since Mar 2014
2803 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:02 pm to
If this catches on, he won't win the nomination. Moderate republicans will help the Dems destroy him.
Posted by JEAUXBLEAUX
Bayonne, NJ
Member since May 2006
55358 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:05 pm to
I usually disagree with him a lot, a real lot. But. give him credit for stating what he did.
Posted by CherryGarciaMan
Sugar Magnolia
Member since Aug 2012
2497 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:10 pm to
This is the kind of stuff that republicans will destroy him with in the primaries.

Calling Fox News.......time to get the spin machine into high gear.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:10 pm to
The republican establishment is going to bury him over these. I expect he will start backpedaling from these remarks very quickly.

If not this will be brought up over and over again through the primaries.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:12 pm to
Hit machine in full frontal assault mode already, I see.
Posted by Holden Caulfield
Hanging with J.D.
Member since May 2008
8308 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:17 pm to
Just like Paul pointing out that Bill Clinton represents the true war on women he's just showing how he and Hillary, who voted for the war, differ.
Posted by Alahunter
Member since Jan 2008
90738 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:20 pm to
I like him too. I'd like to learn more about his foreign policy stance though. As far as the Cheney thing. Rhino's and Prog's are one and the same. Both sides play the game. Money is the bottom line for the establishment guys on the Hill. Feinstein's husband, has secured tens of millions of dollars from Gov't contracting. They're all crooked.
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
15842 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:24 pm to
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1) There was the 9/11 attacks


Which had zero to do with Iraq.

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But, to suggest that the only difference in the 2 time periods was the money earned by Cheney at Haliburton is bereft of plenitude.


To Cheney, that very well may have been the only difference. His tenure at Haliburton being the difference.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:24 pm to
Meh, he's a traitorous liberal.

...at least that's what I was called at the time for pointing out the same things.
Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:28 pm to
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Just like Paul pointing out that Bill Clinton represents the true war on women he's just showing how he and Hillary, who voted for the war, differ

Yep. He's twisting the libs into knots and they don't get it. This same dickweed mother jones writer will be at wits end trying to discount every word out of Rand Paul's mouth if he gets the nomination.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:32 pm to
How is this "twisting dems in knots"?

Posted by Erin Go Bragh
Beyond the Pale
Member since Dec 2007
14916 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:37 pm to

The desire to use Paul's opinion to slay the dragon Cheney will become a challenge to them when Rand points out Hillary's willingness to support the war that benefitted Halliburton.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
78576 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:41 pm to
I'm on the Rand Paul bus. But it's hardly news that the Libertarian wing of the Republican Party is highly skeptical of the Neocon wing.

I think Paul's view on this is highly simplistic and ignores TONS of contrary evidence. Anybody who read neocon writings from 1985-2004 knows that there was a constant drumbeat of Nation-building. In fact, Bush disavowing Nation-building in the 2000 campaign debate against Al Gore was one of his biggest moments, when he got everybody on-board, including the Libertarian wing.

Haliburton profits were but a small brick in a much-larger foundation.
Posted by MJM
Member since Aug 2007
2485 posts
Posted on 4/7/14 at 12:42 pm to
That's going to pale in comparison to him having to explain to republicans how the thinks that the former repub VP is a war criminal
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