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re: Rosenstein puts his foot down about Mueller

Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:31 am to
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4411 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:31 am to
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You clearly do not know or care about the law


Unlike you I'm actually an attorney

If Comey was actually a potential suspect in the Russian investigation or the Flynn investigation then you'd have a great point. But he isn't.

Again, you don't seem to know how law enforcement works. You think when a deputy witnesses a crime the lead investigator or DA has to recuse himself because he's worked with he guy for years and grabs a beer with him on Fridays?

This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 11:34 am
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51271 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:31 am to
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Comey is a WITNESS now, and therefor conflict of interest could apply.


lol, you know how ridiculous that sounds?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:33 am to
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Once again, under oath today, Rosenstein, a Trump appointee disagreed with this.


No he didn't

See, you are stupid

You don't even understand that we can agree that yes the appearance of a conflict of interest is just cause to fire a special counsel, BUT it only matters if Rosenstein sees an appearance of a conflict of interest, because only he can fire the SC.

At no point has Rosenstein ever said "an appearance of a conflict of interest isn't just cause to fire a special counsel" nor would he, because the law is clear. It IS just cause.

Liberalism is a god damned brain disorder.
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:34 am to
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Unlike you I'm actually an attorney


You're not

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You think when a deputy witnesses a crime the lead investigator or DA has to recuse himself because he's worked with he guy for years and grabs a beer with him on Fridays?



we are talkng about a much closer relationship between Comey and Mueller than that, and you know it.

Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9902 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:38 am to
I suppose that's fair. Rosenstein's in a difficult position now with regard to this investigation. He himself is quite possibly going to end up a witness in this case with respect to his meeting with Trump about Comey prior to drafting his memo that served as pretext for the firing. I understand he would have to hand supervision of investigation over to someone else if he himself becomes a witness. Do you know if that's right?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:38 am to
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No it certainly doesn't appear that he is onto something LOL


If he wasn't onto something, you wouldn't hear the chatter about firing mueller.
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There is NO collusion here, Trump is not being investigated for shite. Your silly "he obstructed" nonsense has now been blown out of the water.


I am not privy to the details of the investigation but it is WAY beyond collusion. You have the hacking of voter rolls, money laundering, FARA violations, obstruction of justice and frick probably a lot more.
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Yall are desperate, so desperate that you are ignoring the law.


what law am I ignoring?
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innocent until proven guilty?


sorta like how republicans treated hillary?
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19066 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:39 am to
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Rosenstein:

And you are?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:39 am to
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I understand he would have to hand supervision of investigation over to someone else if he himself becomes a witness. Do you know if that's right?

per rosenstein, this is correct. He said he would recuse himself if comey's firing came into official purview.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4411 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:40 am to
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You're not


OK

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we are talkng about a much closer relationship between Comey and Mueller than that, and you know it.


WTF are you talking about. The had a mentor-mentee relationship and are friends. That exact relationship exists in almost every police department in the Country. Are you implying they are romantically engaged
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 11:50 am
Posted by cajunangelle
Member since Oct 2012
146700 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:40 am to
are all ya'll Hawkeyes and Houghtons 99s 95s treefiddys-- a wants band? Are ya'll from the same father?
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 11:48 am to
i can't speak for the others but I am a product of immaculate conception.
Posted by half cajun
Katy, TX
Member since Sep 2007
1971 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:27 pm to
Are you saying that Mueller is dishonorable or just that the optics are bad?
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17019 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 12:28 pm to
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I understand he would have to hand supervision of investigation over to someone else if he himself becomes a witness. Do you know if that's right?



That's correct. Rosenstein even said as much. Fortunately, Trump's #3 has already been confirmed and moved in. She seems to be rather conservative.
This post was edited on 6/13/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73571 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:07 pm to
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's true. If you don't believe it you are free to appoint a special counsel to investigate.


Yeah no. I dont need to investigate. Your daily memos tell the story
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:08 pm to
You idiots fall for any bullshite gossip
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
40202 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:12 pm to
How is it bullshite gossip when it came out of his mouth?
Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:21 pm to
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. I understand he would have to hand supervision of investigation over to someone else if he himself becomes a witness. Do you know if that's right?


Have to? No , of course not. Just like with what we're hearing about RBG and recusing herself on the travel ban case. She doesn't have to , and no one can make her. One difference though, Sessions or Trump COULD fire Rosenstein if he refuses to recuse himself, wheras no one can fire RBG if she doesn't do so. The over riding similarity though is there no you MUST recuse yourself.

Posted by HeyHeyHogsAllTheWay
Member since Feb 2017
12458 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:22 pm to
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Are you saying that Mueller is dishonorable or just that the optics are bad?



That is all the appearance of a conflict of interest is, that isn't saying "we know that Mueller will go against Trump to protect his friend" b/c we do NOT know that, we just know that the appearance is that he COULD do so.
Posted by Hawkeye95
Member since Dec 2013
20293 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:25 pm to
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That is all the appearance of a conflict of interest is, that isn't saying "we know that Mueller will go against Trump to protect his friend" b/c we do NOT know that, we just know that the appearance is that he COULD do so.


Could you not say the same thing about rosenstein or sessions? Protect their boss to save their job sounds quite reasonable.
Posted by half cajun
Katy, TX
Member since Sep 2007
1971 posts
Posted on 6/13/17 at 1:26 pm to
Well as far as I know he's never given any indication in his professional life that he would be anything but fair.
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