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Repubs have no idea how to govern. I fear they are doomed.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:15 pm
The GOP (my party since 1984) doesn't know how to be a majority. Too many of them still want to act like the opposition party. They like to say no, but they can offer nothing that has any chance of actually passing into law.
Call the far right by whatever name or subspecies you want -- Freedom Caucus, constitutional conservatives, movement conservatives, social conservatives -- they exist simply to blow government up whenever and wherever possible. But they don't even represent a majority of their own party.
They have already done terrible damage to Trump and his ability to (a) sell an agenda, (b) dismantle the Obama state, and (c) get reelected. They just made Democrats the heroes in the national media. They are guaranteeing midterm losses for themselves.
frick it, I'm out. Changing my registration to Independent.
Call the far right by whatever name or subspecies you want -- Freedom Caucus, constitutional conservatives, movement conservatives, social conservatives -- they exist simply to blow government up whenever and wherever possible. But they don't even represent a majority of their own party.
They have already done terrible damage to Trump and his ability to (a) sell an agenda, (b) dismantle the Obama state, and (c) get reelected. They just made Democrats the heroes in the national media. They are guaranteeing midterm losses for themselves.
frick it, I'm out. Changing my registration to Independent.
This post was edited on 3/24/17 at 5:21 pm
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Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:17 pm to Slippy
There is too much intellectual diversity within GOP
There Is no unifying ideology.
There Is no unifying ideology.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:18 pm to Slippy
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They are guaranteeing midterm losses for themselves.
This is a positive for the country.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:19 pm to BamaAtl
Means a bigger paycheck for Emory
I saw the balance sheet
I saw the balance sheet
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:19 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Intellectual diversity huh? Nice spin.
The reality is that they have no real unifying ideas. The only concept of that was opposition to Obama. Now, with no war to fight against their boogey man they are collapsing.
The reality is that they have no real unifying ideas. The only concept of that was opposition to Obama. Now, with no war to fight against their boogey man they are collapsing.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:20 pm to Slippy
Most of them are also in the tank for the globalists. Virtually everyone in DC is bought by special interests, which is an unfortunate reality of our current political system. There was some hope an outsider such as Trump could change things, but it appears the swamp is too deep.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:20 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I saw the balance sheet
Considering how effectively we use our funding to save lives, you're welcome.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:21 pm to Slippy
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They are guaranteeing midterm losses for themselves.
So you think people are going to switch from Republican to Democrat, over this?
The dopers might vote libertarian but in insignificant numbers.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:21 pm to Slippy
Settle down buttercup. The conservatives saved 2018 for republicans. Only 17% of the public liked this bill. It sucked. It was a half measure. It's time to come up with real repeal and replace and put it to a vote.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:21 pm to Slippy
Welcome to the free-thinking Independents. 
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:22 pm to Slippy
quote:Good on you. I became eligible to vote in 1998, and for all the reasons you state, I went with an I instead of an R.
Changing my registration to Independent.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:23 pm to Slippy
The freedom caucus is just holding trump to his campaign promises. They are governing based on the rhetoric they sold to their voters. It is the establishment who pushed this idiotic sham of a bill that is to blame. They ignored the mandate they were given to their detriment, and Trump stabbed his supporters in the back at the behest of the wing of his party which would rather see him impeached than succeed. It's mind-boggling.
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:23 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:Never thought I'd agree with this sentiment.
There is too much intellectual diversity within GOP
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:23 pm to texashorn
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So you think people are going to switch from Republican to Democrat, over this? The dopers might vote libertarian but in insignificant numbers.
The people who identify as independent are where races are won in swing districts. They will switch unless there is some real winning happening over the next few years
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:24 pm to ballscaster
So do tell us when a democrat in lockstep with pelosi is ever the best choice?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:27 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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There is too much intellectual diversity within GOP
There Is no unifying ideology.
Translation: GOP members are smart enough to think as individuals and not so petty that they put aside honest differences (like the Democrats do) to destroy the Democrats at all costs. Damn shame there's intellectual honesty, right boys?
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:27 pm to Slippy
quote:I am disgusted with my party, too. But I have trouble seeing Trump/GOP voters voting for Dems. I can see that many might just stay home and not vote at all. Or vote in party primaries for non-incumbent challengers. Which could be a reason to stay registered GOP. But maybe not a good enough reason. I am in for Trump now, alone. If he came up with a better party option, I'd seriously consider it.
They are guaranteeing midterm losses for themselves
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:29 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
There is too much intellectual diversity within GOP
There Is no unifying ideology.
It doesn't help that the party's putative leader has no governing philosophy or ethos other than "what makes me get cheered"
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:29 pm to Haughton99
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The people who identify as independent are where races are won in swing districts. They will switch unless there is some real winning happening over the next few years
Their attention span will quickly turn to the failure of Obamacare.
If they blame Republicans for this, then they will get exactly what they deserve (again).
Posted on 3/24/17 at 5:30 pm to Slippy
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They have already done terrible damage to Trump and his ability to (a) sell an agenda,
This is purposeful. The Gop and Dems belong to the uniparty of the elites. Trump is an outsider. If they wanted to defeat Obamacare they would have defunded it way back when.
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