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re: Republicans, the party really needs to quit the hypocritical spending stances.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:15 am to Scruffy
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:15 am to Scruffy
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The Republicans really need to get their financial message in order.
Huh? Defense spending is about 19% of the budget.
Behind both Social Security and Medicare/Medicad.
And its part of the budget that actually will DECREASE in real dollars and as a percentage
in futre proposed budgets. SS and Medicare/Medicad
are ENTITILMENTS and have gone up EVERY year in real dollars and as a percentage of the budget.
Have NO PROBLEM with 1 on 5 of my tax dollars going for defense in this country. And much of the DOD budget goes to salaries and pensions BTW
Don't see how it's hypocritical at all. Republicans have aleays been pro defense and we
can get our fiscal house in order w/out gutting the DOD.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 11:28 am
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Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:18 am to Scruffy
Many (most?) Republicans and 'conservatives' only want spending cuts that affect OTHER people. They do not want their spot at the government trough disturbed.
This is why there will be no real change barring a collapse.
This is why there will be no real change barring a collapse.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:21 am to Scruffy
Republicans are no different than Democrats. Both are awful.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:26 am to weagle99
So DOD spending is about conservatives spot at the "govt trough"? Since DOD spending is about 19% of the budget does the rest belong to the Dems?
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:29 am to RD Dawg
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Have NO PROBLEM with 1 on 5 of my tax dollars going for defense in this country
It's going to the defense of many other countries, not just ours.
The US has bases or military installations in 63 nations with over 250,000 troops abroad. There are over 700 installations not within the US borders. There are no telling how many more "secret or covert" sites we have.
Add the military to education and health care on things we spend more on than almost every other country on earth.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:34 am to RD Dawg
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So DOD spending is about conservatives spot at the "govt trough"? Since DOD spending is about 19% of the budget does the rest belong to the Dems?
Republicans own almost as much as the Dems, but in different areas.
Almost all politicians and most of their voters like pork. They want to cut your pork but keep their plate full.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:35 am to RogerTheShrubber
You can have only two ways. Politicians will redistribute wealth upward or downward. But if you think stop spending is an option. You are wrong. They will never do it...
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:39 am to Scruffy
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The Republicans really need to get their financial message in order.
This is my biggest gripe with the republican party. They are the party of Less Big Spending. Still big spending though.
I dont like their religious crap but for the most part the national elections just spout it off, no real policies. But the fact that they aren't really for smaller gov't, they are just for the spending programs they like. its fricking pathetic.
3rd party all the way.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
Really?I didn't realize Russia and China were so transparent about their defense spending... 
How in the Holy Christ would anyone know how much those 2 countries spend?
As for overseas bases...some are used for forward deployment purposes not just the protection of that particular country.
700 full blown installations outside the US?
You are sure about that?
How in the Holy Christ would anyone know how much those 2 countries spend?
As for overseas bases...some are used for forward deployment purposes not just the protection of that particular country.
700 full blown installations outside the US?
You are sure about that?
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 11:50 am
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:55 am to RD Dawg
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Really?I didn't realize Russia and China were so transparent about their defense spending...
Do you think US foreign military analysts are that bad?
We aren't living in the 1950's, there's no need for the level of foreign involvement. The military of the future will be leaner and more mobile.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 11:56 am to Hawkeye95
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This is my biggest gripe with the republican party. They are the party of Less Big Spending. Still big spending though.
THEY ARE REFLECTING THE WILL OF THEIR VOTERS.
The Parties are only a reflection of the people who support them.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:00 pm to RogerTheShrubber
My biggest problem with it is why should the Republicans be the ones who cave? If they cave and cut all of their items what bargaining chip do they have to cut entitlements? Can they really expect the Democrats to say "hey you did cut military now lets see what we can cut!"
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:03 pm to weagle99
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THEY ARE REFLECTING THE WILL OF THEIR VOTERS. The Parties are only a reflection of the people who support them.
This is partly true. But I think ppl forget, it's easy to be on the outside criticizing someone for what they did. But when it is you behind that desk, s*** changes. You are torn on what you would like to do, vs what you can do. And sometimes you have to do things you wouldn't normally agree to, to get other things that you want done, done.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:07 pm to lsu13lsu
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My biggest problem with it is why should the Republicans be the ones who cave? If they cave and cut all of their items what bargaining chip do they have to cut entitlements? Can they really expect the Democrats to say "hey you did cut military now lets see what we can cut!"
I don't see it as caving, I see it as taking the lead. The Dems and Repubs are playing some silly game of tug of war. Sometimes it may be a good idea to let go or the rope instead of being dragged into the pit, which is what has happened to the Republican party.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:10 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't see it as caving, I see it as taking the lead. The Dems and Repubs are playing some silly game of tug of war. Sometimes it may be a good idea to let go or the rope instead of being dragged into the pit, which is what has happened to the Republican party.
I always feel like no matter what decision the Republicans make we all get dragged a little more into the pit of government. If they let go of the rope Democrats are not going to cut anything. It has been proven again and again.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:15 pm to lsu13lsu
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I always feel like no matter what decision the Republicans make we all get dragged a little more into the pit of government. If they let go of the rope Democrats are not going to cut anything. It has been proven again and again.
Hanging on to a bloated defense budget is big government. The other side of the aisle can easily see the problem.
I don't have a problem with using military budget cuts as a bargaining chip. The problem we have is neither side is leading they are both just reacting to what the others do. So we have an impassible stalemate.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I don't have a problem with using military budget cuts as a bargaining chip. The problem we have is neither side is leading they are both just reacting to what the others do. So we have an impassible stalemate.
Tinfoil hat: Which is what I believe they all want. They both need these bargaining chips so they can keep on negotiating more laws and more government.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:19 pm to lsu13lsu
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Tinfoil hat: Which is what I believe they all want. They both need these bargaining chips so they can keep on negotiating more laws and more government.
There's truth to that.
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:50 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Hanging on to a bloated defense budget is big government. The other side of the aisle can easily see the problem.
I don't have a problem with using military budget cuts as a bargaining chip. The problem we have is neither side is leading they are both just reacting to what the others do. So we have an impassible stalemate.
Does ANYBODY on this board realize the difference between entitlement spending and non-entitlement spending? SSI,Medicare,Medicad are entitlment programgs...ie mandatory spending. What year has the spending on these programs been cut in real dollars?What bargaining chips?
DOD spending in non entitlement spending and can and will be cut in terms of real dollars and proposed spending increases...in other words
this part of the budget can be put on the table every year for cuts.
The dems hold ALL the cards/chips in this debate because they've essentially made their programs bullet proof from any real spending cuts.
This post was edited on 3/5/14 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/5/14 at 12:53 pm to RD Dawg
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SSI,Medicare,Medicad are entitlment programgs...ie mandatory spending. What year has the spending on these programs been cut in real dollars?
Agreed. Which makes it laughable these figures don't make it to the US Government's Balance Sheet.
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