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Republicans and Democrats vote down amendment that would allow for cheaper drugs
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:48 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:48 pm
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frick Corey Booker and every other politician who voted against this amendment.
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The amendment, which was proposed by Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-MN) and Sen. Bernie Sanders, would have allowed the importation of drugs from Canada. Trump has taken a more Democrat-friendly tone on drug prices—at one point during yesterday’s maniacal press conference he accused pharma companies of “getting away with murder,” which sent stocks tumbling—and 12 Republican senators, including John McCain, Ted Cruz and Rand Paul, ended up voting in favor of the bill.
frick Corey Booker and every other politician who voted against this amendment.
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Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:52 pm to CommoDawg
What's the amendment actually say/do?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:52 pm to FooManChoo
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would have allowed the importation of drugs from Canada.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:53 pm to CommoDawg
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yesterday’s maniacal press conference
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:55 pm to CommoDawg
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would have allowed the importation of drugs from Canada.
I think the amendment probably had a few more words than this, and might give some context as to why people voted against it.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:57 pm to CommoDawg
You can't trust those Canucks. Haven't you ever seen Canadian Bacon?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:57 pm to CommoDawg
There's always more to the story.
Here is Booker's response:
Apparently the issue was around drug safety standards, not simply importation of drugs.
That's why I asked. Yeah, nuking my house might get rid of fleas but I still want to keep my house. Vetoing a proposal to nuke my house doesn't mean I want to keep fleas, it just means I don't favor that method for accomplishing the goal. That's what the MSM and politicians say to each other all the time: "SENATOR X VOTES NAY AND IS PRO FLEAS!"
Here is Booker's response:
quote:
I support the importation of prescription drugs as a key part of a strategy to help control the skyrocketing cost of medications. Any plan to allow the importation of prescription medications should also include consumer protections that ensure foreign drugs meet American safety standards. I opposed an amendment put forward last night that didn’t meet this test. The rising cost of medications is a life-and-death issue for millions of Americans, which is why I also voted for amendments last night that bring drug prices down and protect Medicare’s prescription drug benefit. I?’m committed to finding solutions that allow for prescription drug importation with adequate safety standards.
Apparently the issue was around drug safety standards, not simply importation of drugs.
That's why I asked. Yeah, nuking my house might get rid of fleas but I still want to keep my house. Vetoing a proposal to nuke my house doesn't mean I want to keep fleas, it just means I don't favor that method for accomplishing the goal. That's what the MSM and politicians say to each other all the time: "SENATOR X VOTES NAY AND IS PRO FLEAS!"
Posted on 1/12/17 at 2:58 pm to CommoDawg
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frick Corey Booker and every other politician who voted against this amendment.
Doing the work necessary to get big pharma on his side and in his pocket.
This guy is clearly making political play after political play. Every move he makes is a political calculation made to set him up as the Democrat for president.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:01 pm to CommoDawg
3 words fixes this....
Campaign Finance Reform
PLZ TRUMP DO THIS
Campaign Finance Reform
PLZ TRUMP DO THIS
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:02 pm to CommoDawg
SA 178. Ms. KLOBUCHAR (for herself and Mr. Sanders) submitted an
amendment intended to be proposed by her to the concurrent resolution
S. Con. Res. 3, setting forth the congressional budget for the United
States Government for fiscal year 2017 and setting forth the
appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2018 through 2026; as
follows:
At the end of title III, add the following:
SEC. 3___. DEFICIT-NEUTRAL RESERVE FUND RELATING TO LOWERING
PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES FOR AMERICANS BY
IMPORTING DRUGS FROM CANADA.
The Chairman of the Committee on the Budget of the Senate
may revise the allocations of a committee or committees,
aggregates, and other appropriate levels in this resolution
for one or more bills, joint resolutions, amendments,
amendments between the Houses, motions, or conference reports
relating to lowering prescription drug prices, including
through the importation of safe and affordable prescription
drugs from Canada by American pharmacists, wholesalers, and
individuals with a valid prescription from a provider
licensed to practice in the United States, by the amounts
provided in such legislation for those purposes, provided
that such legislation would not increase the deficit over
either the period of the total of fiscal years 2017 through
2021 or the period of the total of fiscal years 2017 through
2026.
It says 'safe'. Since that leaves it up to the FDA to determine what is 'safe', which is basically what Booker would have asked for anyway, I don't understand his problem.
Unless his problem is simply the $240,000 that Pharma gave him. In which case I understand.
Also, as much as I am protectionist, labor to produce drugs in Canada cannot be substantially different from ours. Unless there are burdensome regulations to manufacture in the US, which they probably are, I don't see what the negative impact could be.
amendment intended to be proposed by her to the concurrent resolution
S. Con. Res. 3, setting forth the congressional budget for the United
States Government for fiscal year 2017 and setting forth the
appropriate budgetary levels for fiscal years 2018 through 2026; as
follows:
At the end of title III, add the following:
SEC. 3___. DEFICIT-NEUTRAL RESERVE FUND RELATING TO LOWERING
PRESCRIPTION DRUG PRICES FOR AMERICANS BY
IMPORTING DRUGS FROM CANADA.
The Chairman of the Committee on the Budget of the Senate
may revise the allocations of a committee or committees,
aggregates, and other appropriate levels in this resolution
for one or more bills, joint resolutions, amendments,
amendments between the Houses, motions, or conference reports
relating to lowering prescription drug prices, including
through the importation of safe and affordable prescription
drugs from Canada by American pharmacists, wholesalers, and
individuals with a valid prescription from a provider
licensed to practice in the United States, by the amounts
provided in such legislation for those purposes, provided
that such legislation would not increase the deficit over
either the period of the total of fiscal years 2017 through
2021 or the period of the total of fiscal years 2017 through
2026.
It says 'safe'. Since that leaves it up to the FDA to determine what is 'safe', which is basically what Booker would have asked for anyway, I don't understand his problem.
Unless his problem is simply the $240,000 that Pharma gave him. In which case I understand.
Also, as much as I am protectionist, labor to produce drugs in Canada cannot be substantially different from ours. Unless there are burdensome regulations to manufacture in the US, which they probably are, I don't see what the negative impact could be.
This post was edited on 1/12/17 at 3:07 pm
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:03 pm to Centinel
quote:
I think the amendment probably had a few more words than this, and might give some context as to why people voted against it.
Yep, my first question is "Read the pork that was attached to the bill" What does that say?
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:04 pm to FooManChoo
quote:
Apparently the issue was around drug safety standards, not simply importation of drugs. That's why I asked. Yeah, nuking my house might get rid of fleas but I still want to keep my house. Vetoing a proposal to nuke my house doesn't mean I want to keep fleas, it just means I don't favor that method for accomplishing the goal. That's what the MSM and politicians say to each other all the time: "SENATOR X VOTES NAY AND IS PRO FLEAS!"
That's such a stupid pre-text, yeah Canadian safety standards are not good enough for Americans
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:04 pm to Snipe
Booker's response points out that there were no provisions to hold Canadian drugs to US safety standards. He said that he favors allowing drugs to be imported but only if they are safe for US consumers.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:05 pm to CommoDawg
Drugs "from Canada" is a joke of a concept.
Reimportation savings are largely eaten up by middle men dealing in reimportation.
Reimportation savings are largely eaten up by middle men dealing in reimportation.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:06 pm to CommoDawg
quote:Um, well we don't have control of Canadian standards. They might be good today and bad tomorrow. Enforcing US standards on drugs imported from other countries isn't a bad thing.
That's such a stupid pre-text, yeah Canadian safety standards are not good enough for Americans
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:07 pm to CommoDawg
Often times it's the bill riders which are the reasons bipartisan support defeats a good idea. People shoehorn tons of shite in which are awful ideas but it's the bill headline that gets, umm, the headline.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:08 pm to CommoDawg
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That's such a stupid pre-text, yeah Canadian safety standards are not good enough for Americans
"Canadian" pharmacies are often not using drugs from Canada. So there's that.
Secondly, Booker is from NJ. He's not voting against any pharma interest.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:08 pm to CommoDawg
It seems that this amendment would have contradicted the Code of Federal Regulations. The FDA has strict guidelines on import and export of drugs, and it is important to follow these guidelines to ensure drug safety. Potentially, Canada gets drugs from shady manufacturer, US imports those drugs without following good practices, and US citizens die.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:09 pm to CommoDawg
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CommoDawg
quote:
Republicans and Democrats vote down amendment that would allow for cheaper drugs
You think they said "No we dont want people to be able to buy cheaper drugs!"
God damn you are either dense or dishonest.
Posted on 1/12/17 at 3:11 pm to Hester Carries
Don't sell him short. He's both.
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