re: REPORT: Updated NASA Data NO Polar Ice Retreat

Oh no! The world isn't falling apart!

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The world isn't falling apart!

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it's not falling apart, but we aren't doing a very good job taking care of what has been entrusted to us....

and to say that climate change is a fake claim is fricking lunacy... as far as the warming, yeah, not crazy bad, and it goes in cycles anyway... but seasonal temps and weather patterns have changed, hurricanes are stronger, oceans are more polluted, etc... we are doing a pretty shitty job, and instead of looking to go to Mars, why don't we fix up Earth instead?

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yeah, it's nothing but a bunch of fricking millionaires doing the "sciencing"...

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It's your claim. I'm just point out when your "team" does it. Oddly, you only dismiss one side of it. As if government money is magically clean.

You are the one saying funding corrupts results. If so... that works both ways.

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link?

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Already provided. Scroll up.

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glad you brought this up...

story first "cracked" by blogs, picked up by James Delingpole, a Breitbart exec editor in London..

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So you're claiming the actual words in the email regrading creating a sense of emergency weren't real? As far as I know no one has denied the content wasn't theirs.

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Eight committees investigated the allegations and published reports, finding no evidence of fraud or scientific misconduct.

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and no one has more to lose than non-renewable energy, namely o&g...

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Nope. Demand for petroluem isn't going ANYWHERE. You cannot touch a single thing that isn't derived from petroleum in one form or another. O&G's greatest expense is... exploration. The longer they can extend their inventories of revserves, the more money they make. That's why they continually fund conservation efforts. It's profitable.

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remember Watts....

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Your infatuation with the guy is hilarious. And you dismissed my example of bought-and-paid-for IPCC contributers by saing "two guys"...

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hurricanes are stronger,

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false.

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hurricanes are stronger,

false.

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Woody Glazer
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Screw you and your ExxonMobil, Kochs, et.al., bullshite. You have no idea what these companies do nor the good that they bring to your fricking idiot life. Leftists have no credibility in my world, because every idea of improvement you put forth is based on some fairytale you saw in a movie. Your dried up belief system that somebody is fricking somebody else and only your kind have redeeming qualities.

Educate yourself about what these companies do, other than through your bitch fits.

Leftists do more social and economic damage in one year that these companies do combined over 10 years.

What are you saying?
We should believe an attorney's word over the opinion of the vast majority of the scientific community because of "the good that Exxon bring's to my idiot life?"

I don't care if Exxon gives me orgasms on command, it wouldn't change the fact that the fossil fuel industry purposefully denies/diminishes any negative effects of their industry and fights tooth & nail to delay the transition to a more sustainable energy system.

It also wouldn't change the enormous body of research and the overwhelming consensus of the broader climatology and scientific community: NASA, IPCC, International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Science, American Association for the Advancement of Science, Federation of Australian Scientific and Technological Societies, United States National Research Council, Royal Society of New Zealand, Royal Society of the United Kingdom, African Academy of Sciences, European Academy of Sciences and Arts, European Science Foundation, InterAcademy Council, International Council of Academies of Engineering and Technological Sciences, American Chemical Society, American Institute of Physics, American Physical Society, Australian Institute of Physics, European Physical Society, American Geophysical Union, American Society of Agronomy, Crop Science Society of America, Soil Science Society of America, European Federation of Geologists, European Geosciences Union, Geological Society of America, Geological Society of London, International Union of Geodesy and Geophysics, National Association of Geoscience Teachers, American Meteorological Society, Australian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences, Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society, Royal Meteorological Society (UK), World Meteorological Organization, American Quaternary Association, International Union for Quaternary Research, for starters.

And there are countless other national and international scientific organizations that have also made formal declarations confirming human induced global warming and urging nations to reduce emissions of greenhouse gases.

Your use of the term "Leftists" is really telling.
This isn't some old Capitalism v. Communism problem here.
That's YOUR dried up belief system, my friend.
It is you who sees this as political.
You either choose to live in the real world, with what the science shows us; or you continue to live in an ideological fairytale just because it suits your political expediency.

Fix up the earth? Its pointless debating you people.

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It also wouldn't change the enormous body of research and the overwhelming consensus of the broader climatology and scientific community:

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Gun-control advocacy groups make a similar claim on how "settled science" is when is comes to pushing their pet legislation. It's funny, the majority of published research supported the pro-gun-control angle also happened to be the best funded too. Almost as if, when the CDC and NIJ made millions of dollars of grant funding available to advocate for gun-control research, gun-control research became the dominant position to take and any research contrary to the preferred narrative was ridiculed. Problem for those well funded and popular researchers, and one your climate doom and gloomers share, is that eventually the truth wins out. Took decades to show that gun-control advocacy research was flawed, conceptually and mathematically; it will take years to show that climate scientists are largely wrong in their predictions and have been for decades. If you think otherwise then explain why predicted trends have consistently been 1.5x to 3x higher than what was observed. Maybe the majority of resesrch, while popular and palatable to government check writers, isn't nearly as robust as you imagine.