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Renewable diesel plant possibly coming to... Caldwell parish???
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:39 pm
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For that area, that's really good pay.
I still giggle at the name "Port of Columbia". I guess it technically is a port, I just remember it as a field with an old hay barn where I used to hide the pr0n books I snagged from the "library" at the hunting camp.
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The company would create 76 new direct jobs, with an average annual salary of more than $68,000, plus benefits.
For that area, that's really good pay.
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Today, Gov. John Bel Edwards and CEO Paul Schubert of Strategic Biofuels LLC announced that the company’s wholly owned subsidiary, Louisiana Green Fuels, plans to develop a renewable diesel plant near the Caldwell Parish seat of Columbia. Situated on a 171-acre site at the Port of Columbia, the plant would produce up to 32 million gallons of renewable fuel annually through established refinery processes with wood waste as the feedstock. The company is completing feasibility and financing phases for the project in anticipation of a final investment decision by late 2022.
I still giggle at the name "Port of Columbia". I guess it technically is a port, I just remember it as a field with an old hay barn where I used to hide the pr0n books I snagged from the "library" at the hunting camp.
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Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:44 pm to Bard
Questions,
1) How many "studies" have been done to date on this project?
2) Can you get there by taking the Baton Rouge loop and/or the New Mississippi River bridge?
1) How many "studies" have been done to date on this project?
2) Can you get there by taking the Baton Rouge loop and/or the New Mississippi River bridge?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:46 pm to Snipe
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1) How many "studies" have been done to date on this project?
About tree fiddy
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2) Can you get there by taking the Baton Rouge loop and/or the New Mississippi River bridge?
Only if you are in the HOV lane.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:47 pm to Bard
Hope that works out!
Posted on 1/6/22 at 1:52 pm to Bard
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I still giggle at the name "Port of Columbia". I guess it technically is a port, I just remember it as a field with an old hay barn where I used to hide the pr0n books I snagged from the "library" at the hunting camp.
there used to be some old gal that would sell sugar cane on the side of the highway. my grandfather and I would get a stalk while were over there and chew on it all the way back to Sikes. this is really good news for that area, regardless if it pans out as described. those are really, really good paying jobs for Caldwell.
eta-it may have been Grayson, not Columbia. but who's keeping score
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 1:53 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:00 pm to WinnPtiger
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....Grayson, not Columbia...
ETA: don't even know how the semi-double post happened??
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 2:02 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:01 pm to WinnPtiger
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....Grayson, not Columbia...
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Sikes.
not many people even know these towns exist...
You have to have been from the there to know they are there...
Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:30 pm to Bard
This project will never break ground. There are 3 mega renewable diesel projects proposed for SE LA right now with the market getting oversaturated. This tiny thing in North LA will not be financially competitive
Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:31 pm to WinnPtiger
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Grayson, not Columbia
Not a tough mistake to make if you didn't live there, especially after they 4-laned 165.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 2:50 pm to TigerTatorTots
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This project will never break ground. There are 3 mega renewable diesel projects proposed for SE LA right now with the market getting oversaturated. This tiny thing in North LA will not be financially competitive
I kind of hope you're right and kind of hope you're wrong.
I would love to see a bunch of good-paying jobs show up there but that location is a bit too close to where my wife and I plan to retire to in 10-15 years.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:28 pm to klrstix
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not many people even know these towns exist... You have to have been from the there to know they are there...
and because of this, right about now is where I put the stop sign on details of my life, because I know someone on this board has already connected the dots and probably knows my last name
Posted on 1/6/22 at 4:31 pm to Bard
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The company would create 76 new direct jobs, with an average annual salary of more than $68,000, plus benefits.
6 people at the top making bank and 70 people under them making $10 an hour.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 7:44 pm to WinnPtiger
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I put the stop sign on details of my life...
I get it... for what its worth, I am not "from" there... However, I have family from all the locations you listed...
Posted on 1/6/22 at 8:57 pm to klrstix
same here. hell, the pastor at my family’s church in winnfield used to be a fairly regular poster here. I haven’t seen him post in a while, nor preach for that matter
think he got ran out of town
think he got ran out of town
This post was edited on 1/6/22 at 9:21 pm
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:13 pm to Bard
Is renewable diesel a viable product/industry without government subsidies?
Posted on 1/6/22 at 9:23 pm to Bard
Perfect place for it. Railways and a river port for transportation. Most of the workforce were employed on pipelines and other oil infrastructure that went to hell, so there is plenty of baws that will work. They have a good school system for a poor NELA parish. Low crime too.
That is the only town I would live in outside of Ouachita parish in NELA. They totally deserve it.
That is the only town I would live in outside of Ouachita parish in NELA. They totally deserve it.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:17 pm to Bard
A client is quite familiar with the guy heading this up and would have money into it but his cash is low after CA locals tried to pick his pockets on a project there with endless new local county regs.
While it definitely looks viable, Velocys is involved and will be supplying the GTL reactors. They claim they have worked in numerous pilot projects but these were all backed up by tubular reactors. Their microchannels plug up quickly and then the microchannel bundles have to be replaced. GTL actually produces a synthetic crude oil which is very high in paraffin wax. This process is different that Valero's Diamond subsidiary and REG's products. They basically rearrange molecules of animal fat, and vegetable oil via hydrocracking process which also deoxygenates the "diesel" and out comes an actual Cetane molecule. At present they are making about $6 per gallon FOB tank car, this is about 50/50 between actual sale price and RIN credits.
Someone mentioned that the market is saturated, not so much yet.
Everything is going to CA and presently the equivalent of two unit trains (all the same product about 100 tank cars each) are loaded in Geismar, Norco and North Dakota headed to CA due they have an upcoming deadline where all diesel sold in CA must be a blend with 40% renewable diesel.
This is not the biodiesel of a decade ago. Those plants have all gone belly up when Europe put a tariff on them.
CA cannot really make any of this unless they use and existing grandfathered in Hydrogen Reformer like Chevron is doing in Richmond, CA. Hydrogen Reformers also produce CO2 which is a big no no in CA.
While it definitely looks viable, Velocys is involved and will be supplying the GTL reactors. They claim they have worked in numerous pilot projects but these were all backed up by tubular reactors. Their microchannels plug up quickly and then the microchannel bundles have to be replaced. GTL actually produces a synthetic crude oil which is very high in paraffin wax. This process is different that Valero's Diamond subsidiary and REG's products. They basically rearrange molecules of animal fat, and vegetable oil via hydrocracking process which also deoxygenates the "diesel" and out comes an actual Cetane molecule. At present they are making about $6 per gallon FOB tank car, this is about 50/50 between actual sale price and RIN credits.
Someone mentioned that the market is saturated, not so much yet.
Everything is going to CA and presently the equivalent of two unit trains (all the same product about 100 tank cars each) are loaded in Geismar, Norco and North Dakota headed to CA due they have an upcoming deadline where all diesel sold in CA must be a blend with 40% renewable diesel.
This is not the biodiesel of a decade ago. Those plants have all gone belly up when Europe put a tariff on them.
CA cannot really make any of this unless they use and existing grandfathered in Hydrogen Reformer like Chevron is doing in Richmond, CA. Hydrogen Reformers also produce CO2 which is a big no no in CA.
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:18 pm to HonoraryCoonass
No
Posted on 1/6/22 at 10:20 pm to TigerTatorTots
Still not enough to fill the demand when they come online. There is another project for Port Arthur and several more. They are similar to the projects in Geismar and Norco. CA needs at least 2 billion gallons per year for transportation. Disney has already contracted for a steady supply from Valero's at Norco and the reason for its first expansion.
This one likely gets more carbon credits due it comes from trees rather than corn oil or animal fat.
The labor force is not just the plant itself which will be comparable to chemical plants around here for pay, but also loggers
KiOR in Columbia, MS was an epic flop because they cooked the books at their pilot plant and it was all a Silicon Valley pipe dream using a modified Ultra Orthoflow Cat Cracker to make 500 BPD. They all the MIT Chem E's with PhD's but no one who with any cat cracker experience at all. Rumor has it they made only hazardous waste and ended buying diesel from refineries and tried selling it as renewable diesel They took culled trees from pine plantations and had to geotag each tree and record it upon arrival to the wood yard where they ground it up fine as flower before it ended up in the reactor. They were losing $1 million in catalyst a week or month. I forget which.
This one likely gets more carbon credits due it comes from trees rather than corn oil or animal fat.
The labor force is not just the plant itself which will be comparable to chemical plants around here for pay, but also loggers
KiOR in Columbia, MS was an epic flop because they cooked the books at their pilot plant and it was all a Silicon Valley pipe dream using a modified Ultra Orthoflow Cat Cracker to make 500 BPD. They all the MIT Chem E's with PhD's but no one who with any cat cracker experience at all. Rumor has it they made only hazardous waste and ended buying diesel from refineries and tried selling it as renewable diesel They took culled trees from pine plantations and had to geotag each tree and record it upon arrival to the wood yard where they ground it up fine as flower before it ended up in the reactor. They were losing $1 million in catalyst a week or month. I forget which.
This post was edited on 1/7/22 at 8:53 am
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