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WikiTiger
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Member since Sep 2007
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not

The use of terms like steal and theft is flat out wrong. Even the SCOTUS agrees with me on that



joshnorris14
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Florida
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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at least fricking paraphrase the guy, lazy ass


Jeffrey Tucker (Author, Economist) and Stefan Molyneux (Author, Software Programmer) debate a software programmer on the validity of IP.

Jeffrey Tucker was the VP of the Mises Institute (Which gives away all of their books for free) and is now the President of Laissez Faire books (Where the books are licensed under a Creative commons license)

Stefan Molyneux puts out such an enormous amount of content it is impossible to list. All of his books are free. All of his podcasts are free. All of his videos are free.


90proofprofessional
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Member since Mar 2004
11627 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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I guess the most secure and stable operating system isn't enough of a breakthrough

nope, not enough to disprove the rule

especially when people are willing to pay so much for other OS's when this one is so great and free, btw

although again, i do not mean to downplay its value

it's just that it has to be obvious that the cost to progress from having no right to profit from your intellectual creations will have a bad effect on the costly type of research/advancement


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joshnorris14
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Florida
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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He's like mograyback with posting economics videos and never giving opinions, but worse.


Jesus Christ.

I have listed out my opinions in thread after thread after thread.

The fricking guy said he wanted to see instances where people gave up their IP and I posted a fricking example.


90proofprofessional
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Member since Mar 2004
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re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Jeffrey Tucker was the VP of the Mises Institute (Which gives away all of their books for free) and is now the President of Laissez Faire books (Where the books are licensed under a Creative commons license)

Stefan Molyneux puts out such an enormous amount of content it is impossible to list. All of his books are free. All of his podcasts are free. All of his videos are free.



believe it or not i am very sympathetic to mises

but i am not impressed by an advocacy group giving their shite out for free, sorry. that does nothing to limit their influence, and how much revenue are they really forgoing in exchange for their ideas getting put out there for free?


NC_Tigah
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Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
58997 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Stefan Molyneux puts out such an enormous amount of content it is impossible to list. All of his books are free.
In Molyneux's case that is a fair price. Are you under the impression Molyneux works for free though? Really?


joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21523 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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but i am not impressed by an advocacy group giving their shite out for free, sorry. that does nothing to limit their influence, and how much revenue are they really forgoing in exchange for their ideas getting put out there for free?


They are actually pretty profitable (Although Mises Institute is a non-profit).

The point is, they've adapted their business models and remained profitable while giving information out for free.

And Molyneux isn't an "advocacy group". He is a stay at home dad who depends on his content to provide for himself.


90proofprofessional
LSU Fan
Member since Mar 2004
11627 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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The fricking guy said he wanted to see instances where people gave up their IP and I posted a fricking example.

that isn't what i said, although perhaps i was less than clear

i wanted to see real scientific/tech advancement, breakthroughs, in instances where the profit motive (as protected by IP) is gone.


joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21523 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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In Molyneux's case that is a fair price. Are you under the impression Molyneux works for free though? Really?


I'll go download all of his books and tell you how much I paid for them.


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C
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
23183 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
So bit coins really have no value in the future? Which makes sense as barter becomes easier.


Gmorgan4982
Member since May 2005
101746 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
So I can steal something from people and they still have full use of what I "stole" from them? Learn something new on the Poli Board every day.


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joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21523 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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i wanted to see real scientific/tech advancement, breakthroughs, in instances where the profit motive (as protected by IP) is gone.


Gimp, Word Perfect, Linux. Et cetra.


WikiTiger
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2007
40721 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
Josh, just remember that we don't have to convince any one of the futility of IP. It will naturally die on it's own.


ForeLSU
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The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
35810 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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If you share the knowledge with me, and I use the algorithm,


I'm sharing it with you with the explicit condition that you may not market it as your own...if you do, you've violated the contract you've agreed to in the original transaction.


90proofprofessional
LSU Fan
Member since Mar 2004
11627 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Molyneux isn't an "advocacy group"

was talking about mises, not familiar with that guy


joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21523 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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Josh, just remember that we don't have to convince any one of the futility of IP. It will naturally die on it's own.


I have accepted that truth in regards to the state also. But I felt like debating the topic to brush up on my skills.


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WikiTiger
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2007
40721 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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So bit coins really have no value in the future? Which makes sense as barter becomes easier


What are you even saying?


joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21523 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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was talking about mises, not familiar with that guy


Remember Tucker isn't with the LvMI any more. He runs Lasseiz Faire Books, which is for profit.


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C
LSU Fan
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Dec 2007
23183 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
What about a persons identity?


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joshnorris14
Florida Fan
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
21523 posts

re: Regardless of whether you believe in the legitimacy of IP or not
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I'm sharing it with you with the explicit condition that you may not market it as your own...if you do, you've violated the contract you've agreed to in the original transaction.


I'll agree with this.


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