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Regardless of political views, people have the same goals and desires

Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:41 pm
Posted by phillypie
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
168 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:41 pm
MOST people want:

-to be safe
-to be treated fairly regardless or skin color, gender, etc.
-jobs and financial security
-a future for their kids

Frick the media and politicians for dividing people with selfish agendas
Posted by TygerTyger
Houston
Member since Oct 2010
9207 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:43 pm to
I'll agree with you on those.

I think the major difference is who people expect to provide those things for them.

Conservatives expect the government to get out of the way so they can protect their selves and their families, find and succeed at a job, and help their kids plan their futures.

Liberals expect big government to provide all of those things for them, at the taxpayers expense.

Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:49 pm to
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-a future for their kids


Nearly 20% of women have gone through their child bearing years without reproducing and this number continues to grow.

Almost half of children will go through life without a father present in the home.
Posted by phillypie
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
168 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:50 pm to
What are you trying to say?
Posted by LSUTIGER in TEXAS
Member since Jan 2008
13610 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:50 pm to
quote:

Nearly 20% of women have gone through their child bearing years without reproducing and this number continues to grow.

Almost half of children will go through life without a father present in the home.
blame democRATS?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112495 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

to be treated fairly regardless or skin color, gender, etc.


I disagree with this one. Life is not fair. Hell, nature is not fair. Examples:

Nature: Bears do not recognize the civil rights, aspirations or personal space of salmon.

Humans: When I was looking for a wife I discriminated against weight, hair style, skin color, IQ, tits and personality among 20 or 30 other characteristics over which the women had no control. But then they were discriminating against me on God knows how many traits. It didn't bother me in the least.
Posted by AUbagman
LA
Member since Jun 2014
10569 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:52 pm to
Division equates to control. By dividing us, we can be strung along like emotional puppets.
Posted by phillypie
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
168 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:54 pm to
I understand this is and will always be impossible to achieve. It doesn't change the fact that it is what people desire and deserve.

Are you saying people shouldn't be treated equally based on certain factors?
Posted by phillypie
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
168 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

Division equates to control. By dividing us, we can be strung along like emotional puppets.


Well said
Posted by OleWar
Troy H. Middleton Library
Member since Mar 2008
5828 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:56 pm to
That there is large segment of adult society that is choosing to remain either childless or are absent from their child rearing responsibilities, or do not have goals focused on a future for their kids.
Posted by lil 7thward
ATL
Member since Jan 2012
2588 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:56 pm to
quote:

Division equates to control. By dividing us, we can be strung along like emotional puppets.
This.
Posted by phillypie
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
168 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:57 pm to
Agree. To clarify, people who choose to have children want a bright future for their children.

I believe the people who are absent from their child's lives are often times those who have trouble supporting themselves and thus cannot support another life.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41686 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:58 pm to
Doesn't matter if everyone wants the same things. The ends don't justify the means.

If I want bugs out of my house, I gas the place to kill them. I don't blow up my house and make it unlivable. Sure, both approaches "work" to get rid of the bug problem, but the ways to get there aren't the same and could have better or worse impacts beyond just the infestation.

That's why political parties exist (and why there is division). We might agree on the same end goals but disagree on how to get there.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112495 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 12:59 pm to
quote:

Are you saying people shouldn't be treated equally based on certain factors?


Yes. I'm a big believer that attractive people are good and ugly people are bad. So, a gentleman should open the door for a pretty lady and say "Hi." You should not open the door or speak to an ugly woman. It would only encourage them to go out in public more often which destroys the aesthetics of daily life.
Posted by phillypie
South Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
168 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:01 pm to
Makes sense. Sometimes when I see ugly, confident girls, I get so confused as to how she came to exist.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112495 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

Sometimes when I see ugly, confident girls, I get so confused as to how she came to exist.

That reminds me of one of my old sayings:
When I see a really obese, hideously ugly woman at Kmart dragging her little kid around she is actually saying 'Yeah, I look like shite. But here is proof that I got some moron to frick me at least one time.'
Posted by chewstick
Member since Oct 2009
1414 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:08 pm to
The problem is that even the parties are split in half. You can't argue that Republicans want lesser govt control when they create laws to keep gay people from getting married. Call it a non issue if you like, but real people are directly affected by these laws. Why would someone support a party that doesn't want them to get married? Same goes for anti birth control. Do you really not want women taking birth control because of religious dogma enforced by state laws?
This post was edited on 11/22/16 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112495 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Call it a non issue if you like, but real people are directly affected by these laws. Why would someone support a party that doesn't want them to get married?


1. It's a non issue.
2. What republican law bans gay marriage?

quote:

Same goes for anti birth control. Do you really not want women taking birth control because of religious dogma enforced by state laws?


What republican bill suggested banning birth control?
What state laws ban birth control?
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

-to be safe
I'd rather freedom than safety.
Posted by 13yearvet
Member since Oct 2016
98 posts
Posted on 11/22/16 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Conservatives expect the government to get out of the way so they can protect their selves and their families, find and succeed at a job, and help their kids plan their futures.


Rally? Just watched 50M+ Trump voters vote for a man that promised to give them jobs and save them from economic plights.

Sounds democratic to me. Sounds like a handout
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