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Reason: Thai activist given 2.5 years in jail for Sharing BBC Article

Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:00 pm
This is why we cannot give one milimeter on the 1st Amendment

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Thailand government critic Jatupat Bonnpattaraksa, a.k.a. Pai, has been sentenced to two and a half years in prison for lese-majeste, or insulting the king.

Pai, a former law student who has been outspoken about the military junta running the country, was arrested just two days after Maha Vajiralongkorn took the throne as the new king last December. Pai's crime: sharing a BBC Thai profile of Vajiralongkorn. The article was fairly objective—you can read the English-language version of it here—and thousands of people shared it on social media. Pai was the only one targeted by authorities.


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As Reuters notes, the number of arrests for the crime of lese-majeste has increased sharply since the military overthrew the democratically elected government back in 2014. The arrests have often targeted government critics.

"Jatupat's case is only the latest in the Thai government's increasingly repressive and arbitrary attempts to chill expression online and censor content critical of the state, including banning interaction with certain exiled dissidents and making it a crime to simply view lese majeste content," the Electronic Freedom Foundation's Gennie Gebhart writes. "These extremes are not just about stopping the flow of information; they are also about spreading fear among users that the authorities may be watching what they read, share, and say online."


At first they came for the Nazis, and I said nothing, because I wasn't a Nazi...
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:02 pm to
This also happened in Britain recently. LINK
Posted by boosiebadazz
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:04 pm to
It's my personal opinion that article incited violence and I feel it was hate speech so it shouldn't be protected.

It boggles my mind that people cannot see the faulty premise and slippery slope in that statement.
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:04 pm to
not jail, but Canada

i'm re-posting b/c of this:

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The individual who led the effort to force Ryerson to cancel the event, Christeen Elizabeth, explained that "Transphobia is violence, Islamophobia is violence. Violence is contextual."


throws out the "incitement" argument entirely if they're allowed to define violence this way
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:05 pm to
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It's my personal opinion that article incited violence and I feel it was hate speech so it shouldn't be protected.



good timing
This post was edited on 8/17/17 at 4:06 pm
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:05 pm to
Germany has hate speech laws. How could that possibly go wrong?
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:06 pm to
I can't wait until we get female only safe spaces, at which point we can push for male only safe spaces, and have free speech there. That will work!
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:07 pm to
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male only safe spaces


What if the male identifies as a girl?
Posted by Stingray
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:07 pm to
1st Amendment
2nd Amendment
Property Rights/Capitalism

These are the things we must be willing to die for.
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:08 pm to
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I can't wait until we get female only safe spaces, at which point we can push for male only safe spaces, and have free speech there. That will work!


Dude you can barely get a male/female only bathroom
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:08 pm to
there are auth-left posters on here arguing that since Germany did it, we should too

Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:08 pm to
I don't trust any government entity to determine what is and what isn't allowable. It's a terrible precedent. People on the left and the right want this, but in different forms of what you are allowed to say.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:09 pm to
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Dude you can barely get a male/female only bathroom



Don't you dare accuse me of being a progressive. I'm a passionate attack helicopter, and my male noun is Apache. Thank you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:09 pm to
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I don't trust any government entity to determine what is and what isn't allowable. It's a terrible precedent. People on the left and the right want this, but in different forms of what you are allowed to say.

100%

NY

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Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Tuesday he will push to add inciting to riot and rioting that targets a protected class of people to the state hate crimes statute, a response to violence at a white supremacist rally in Charlottesville, Va., over the weekend.

Dubbed the Charlottesville Provisions, penalties for rioting and inciting to riot would be increased. Rioting under the hate crimes law would come with stiffer felony penalties, while inciting to riot under the hate crimes law would become a felony (up from a misdemeanor).


that could never be abused
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:09 pm to
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since Germany did it


And then others that will say why shouldn't we be better than country X when it comes to issue Y.



I'm spinning in a whirlpool of contradictions.
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:10 pm to
NY police getting new brown uniforms?
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:10 pm to
People that want that have no foresight.

They don't even have vision for the present. They want the government to control what kind of speech is allowed. Trump, who they hate, runs the executive branch and is in charge of federal law enforcement and the Justice Department.

Literally, Trump would be deciding this.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:11 pm to
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Trump, who they hate, runs the executive branch and is in charge of federal law enforcement and the Justice Department.

Literally, Trump would be deciding this.

brought that point up a few times

crickets
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:12 pm to
Unless we have a free speech commission or something. Which would also be retarded. There isn't a solution to this other than to ignore the retarded Nazis and the retarded Commies.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 8/17/17 at 4:12 pm to
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There isn't a solution to this other than to ignore the retarded Nazis and the retarded Commies.

100%

stop amplifying their message to make them seem more powerful

punish any group using violence
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