re: Question for liberals and "libertarians" on this board-Do you really think this is helping

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But I also don't think this is as important as you think; Nixon wasn't technically impeached for "Watergate" either

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I just don't think you can compare an era where it was far, far easier to direct the public's attention to an issue to what we're going to see here.

I definitely think you're going to need something akin to a public mandate. I don't think this is a Nixon situation where you can rely on the looming issue of political survivability, you'll need a visible public distrust to motivate legislators.

I think you give people a bit too much credit honestly. In the end, either Trump will have appreciably improved their lives or he won't. I think thats what they'll be thinking about come election time. If Trumps administration can't keep its shite together enough to pass that type of legislation I don't think Joe Blow will be blaming the dems.

JMO

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Not melting just an honest question.

Do you think this has won over any significant voting block from Trump?

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Most elections are lesser of two evil choices and Trump is doing a great job making his side win the most evil race.

The fact is that the loons at the top of the Democrat Party hate middle class America. They don't think its a problem because they mistakenly assume that middle class America hates itself. And at the moment they're not capable of addressing that.

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I think the Russia investigation is fodder for cable news and national pundits and people like us who follow politics compulsively

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This is true. My family would be oblivious to most of this crap if I weren't following this board religiously and watching shows like Tucker Carlson since the election. And I never did either of those things prior to this election cycle. These events don't touch "normal" people in their daily lives. We're an upper-middle class, well educated family, yet we've never paid much attention at all to the national news. I've never noticed any changes of any significance in my daily life for the past 50 years regardless of who was President. And I think the majority of people are similar in this regard. All of this chaos is more for the political junkies. Though now that I've been on board this train, it is kind of fun (albeit disturbing).

Even all of the liberal issues such as the gender/bathroom crap - it's something that may drive you crazy when you think about it, but I can not recall a time when I've encountered any people with these "gender identity crises" in my daily life. Nor in any bathroom. And when I ask my kid how many of these issues he encounters in his classroom at high school, the answer is always "zero".

Virtually all of these hot topics on national news amount to much ado about nothing.