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re: Proposed Bill Would Require Women To Ask Men's Permission To Have An Abortion
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:15 am to ballscaster
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:15 am to ballscaster
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You're a little boy trying to boss girls around regarding their pregnancies. The nonsense is yours. Grow up.
Actually, I'm just pointing out the fallacy of "my body, my choice." I don't have any stray sperm floating around out there and my wife's view on abortion makes me look like Margaret Sanger. So I don't need to control anyone's pregnancy personally. I realize you don't have an ounce of philosophical or moral integrity with which to process a consistent argument, so don't let anything like logic slow you down.
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Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:15 am to ballscaster
quote:
You're a little boy trying to boss girls around regarding their pregnancies.
And then women try to boss guys around for the next 18 years. If it's entirely their "business" then let them pay for their choice.
A man should be given the option of paying for an abortion or paying child support for the next 18 years. If he chooses to pay for the abortion but the woman refuses to have one, he should be off the hook for child support. You would see a lot less "unwanted" pregnancies -- especially among professional athletes.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:27 am to the808bass
quote:Oh, we know.
I don't have any stray sperm floating around
quote:You are a little boy trying to boss women around regarding what is theirs and not yours. You're the loser here. What you want, you are not allowed to have.
you don't have an ounce of philosophical or moral integrity with which to process a consistent argument
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:30 am to MMauler
quote:All the applicable laws were legislated by a majority of men. You are a little boy being told what to do by men who are bigger than you.
And then women try to boss guys around for the next 18 years.
quote:You'll help, and you'll do nothing about it, ever. Little boys like you like to flap your wings a lot, but you never do anything. You can just sit there and pout.
If it's entirely their "business" then let them pay for their choice.
quote:Or what? What are you going to do, big guy?
A man should be given the option of paying for an abortion or paying child support for the next 18 years. If he chooses to pay for the abortion but the woman refuses to have one, he should be off the hook for child support.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:36 am to ballscaster
effective debate at work here. Call everyone a little boy.....gloat the status quo cannot be changed....avoid any actual debate. You,sir, should be proud. Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:38 am to BBONDS25
There's no debate. These boys aren't allowed to have what they want, and they're too weak and inferior to do anything about it. There was a similar thread a couple years ago, and none of those boys ever did anything about it, and these won't, either.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:39 am to ballscaster
You once again prove my point. Really....it is an example of intellectual prowess.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:41 am to BBONDS25
Your point doesn't move the needle, man. Not important.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:48 am to ballscaster
Women can abort all responsibilities to that child without even mentioning it to the father.....but men will always be on the hook for child support even if he didn't want the kid.
That's screwed up.
That's screwed up.
This post was edited on 12/18/14 at 7:50 am
Posted on 12/18/14 at 7:50 am to member12
quote:Pout, then.
Men have no reproductive rights. That's screwed up.
quote:You're catching on.
Women can abort all responsibilities to that child without even mentioning it to the father.....but men will always be on the hook for child support even if he didn't want the kid.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:01 am to ballscaster
I didn't expect it would with someone of your intellect
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:05 am to StringedInstruments
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He said he was inspired to change the laws around abortion consent because he was required to obtain his wife's consent before having a vasectomy.
There are no laws in the United States, however, requiring men to seek permission from women before having a vasectomy. Mother Jones notes that some individual medical providers in Missouri have a policy requiring the partner's consent. Elizabeth Nash, state issues manager for the Guttmacher Institute, a reproductive health research organization, told The Huffington Post there are legal reasons some providers might require spousal consent.
Did no one catch this joke of a reason? Are people seriously saying this is a good idea?
He had to get permission from his doctor, which he thinks is a law but ISNT one and wants to apply it wholesale into a law?
Yeah. He's not a conservative if he wants more laws. Someone should explain that to him.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:08 am to mahdragonz
I haven't gotten into this debate at all, but are you arguing about abortion, or actually about requiring both the father and mother to give permission to have an abortion?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:33 am to asurob1
quote:
instead you want to force some woman who doesn't want kids to give birth.
On the flip side, men who never wanted kids can be forced to support them for 18 years. How do they abort that responsibility?
Posted on 12/18/14 at 8:41 am to member12
If you feel "forced" to support your own kid, no matter what kind is skank you knocked up, you are a pretty shite-filled man.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:13 am to StringedInstruments
Not reading this whole thread, but honestly I can't get too upset about this unfair system we have where women have all the say in these type of issues. If the alternative is a reality where men get pregnant for 9 mos and then have to endure labor, but we get more of a say, I would choose our current reality 10 times out of 10.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:23 am to OMLandshark
Bro you are arguing 2 different issues. Personal responsibility and abortion. Personal responsibility is taught (or not taught) way before a child becomes the age that they can conceive children.
Just bc a person is irresponsible doesnt make it ok to terminate a human being that was created bc of that irresponsibility. There are plenty of ways people can avoid pregnancy but it they do not then they should take responsibility for their action. 2 wrongs do not make a right.
Just bc a person is irresponsible doesnt make it ok to terminate a human being that was created bc of that irresponsibility. There are plenty of ways people can avoid pregnancy but it they do not then they should take responsibility for their action. 2 wrongs do not make a right.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:49 am to member12
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Women can abort all responsibilities to that child without even mentioning it to the father.....but men will always be on the hook for child support even if he didn't want the kid.
And child support isn't clearly defined.
I have a family member who made an average living while married with two kids. Got a divorce. On the hook for child support.
That's okay, right? He should support his kids as he wanted them and they do exist and a divorce happened where he was the top earner in the household.
But as his salary has increased, so has his ex-wife's payments. He's an executive at a large company, and his ex-wife is living the fricking dream on his dime.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:50 am to STEVED00
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Bro you are arguing 2 different issues. Personal responsibility and abortion. Personal responsibility is taught (or not taught) way before a child becomes the age that they can conceive children.
Just bc a person is irresponsible doesnt make it ok to terminate a human being that was created bc of that irresponsibility. There are plenty of ways people can avoid pregnancy but it they do not then they should take responsibility for their action. 2 wrongs do not make a right.
But it can fix thousands of more wrongs that will likely happen because of that irresponsibility. I guarantee if I transported any of you hardcore anti-abortion people into an alternate reality where there has never been an abortion, you'd be begging to come back pretty instantly.
Posted on 12/18/14 at 9:59 am to mahdragonz
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If you feel "forced" to support your own kid, no matter what kind is skank you knocked up, you are a pretty shite-filled man.
If we allow women to kill their unborn child even if the father wants to keep it, I see no problem with allowing men to opt out of child support if they didn't want to be a parent.
Both are scumbag moves IMO, but fair is fair.
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