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President Trump’s ardent backers support him more than ever

Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:41 pm
Posted by GumboPot
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:41 pm
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SUN CITY, Arizona (AP) — President Donald Trump’s most ardent champions are sticking by him, happy to absolve him of any wrong in the blame game over the deadly weekend violence at a rally of white supremacists.

Some Republican members of Congress have criticized Trump’s back and forth response since a car slammed into a crowd of counter protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a woman and injuring 19 other people. Trump’s insistence that “both sides” bear responsibility for the violence has sparked anger among many Americans.

The president’s statements have also given some supporters pause. But many of the people who helped elect Trump seem unfazed by the outcry over his statements concerning the protest and counter protest over removing a monument to Confederate Gen. Robert E. Lee.

Trump on Thursday bemoaned growing efforts to topple monuments to Confederate war heroes, saying that the United States is watching “the history and culture of our great country being ripped apart.”

The enthusiasm of many of the president’s core supporters has been noted in the past. Trump himself boasted during the campaign last year he “could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.”

Such unflagging support remains despite polls that show his approval rates dipping overall.

“I WOULD VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN IN A HEARTBEAT”

In Sun City, Arizona, a retirement community and Trump stronghold north of Phoenix, 80-year-old John Libby said nothing the president has done since Election Day has changed his support for the man.



Libby said he would attend the president’s scheduled Tuesday night rally in Phoenix if he had a car rather than one of the golf carts used as transportation by residents of the area.

“I would vote for him again in a heartbeat,” Libby said in the bright sunshine outside a grocery store in a strip mall of low-slung stucco buildings.

The Des Moines, Iowa, native said he thought the president handled the aftermath of the Charlottesville attack well, but allowed that Trump’s response “wasn’t fast enough for some people.”

Arriving at the supermarket in his own golf cart, Dr. Charles Thomson, a 92-year-old psychiatrist formerly of San Diego, said he voted for Trump and now “I support him more than ever.”

Both men criticized Arizona Republican senators Jeff Flake and John McCain for not supporting Trump’s initiatives more.

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“HE HAS DONE NOTHING TO TURN ME AWAY FROM HIM”



Patricia Aleeyah Robinson, a retired truck driver from Toledo, Ohio, said her support of Trump has cost her friendships and strained family relationships.

But like many of the president’s most passionate supporters, the 63-year-old black woman said her opinions about Trump have not changed since his response to the violence at the Charlottesville rally.

“He has done nothing to turn me away from him,” said Robinson. She said he doesn’t defer to racists and feels he is the only president who has ever spoken directly to blacks.

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“HE SHOULDN’T LET THE PRESS GET UNDER HIS SKIN”

Clemente Ruiz, a 49-year-old truck driver in Lubbock, Texas, said he’s been happy with the job Trump has done. “I’d vote for him again tomorrow,” he said.

The son of a Mexican immigrant who became an American citizen, Ruiz said his only criticism of the president is that he is too “thin-skinned.”

“He refuses to let anything go,” Ruiz said. “He shouldn’t let the press get under his skin the way they do.”

But overall, said Ruiz, Trump has accomplished much for the economy. “Everything is looking good as far as that goes and as far as our military goes,” he added.

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“WHY CAN’T I BE PROUD OF MY HERITAGE?”

Steven Damron, 50, a Trump supporter from Spring Hill, Florida, said he agrees with Trump that both sides in Charlottesville were to blame for the violence.

He thinks the president has handled the aftermath well, but believes he should also have singled out groups on the left — such as Black Lives Matter — the way he did with the KKK and neo-Nazis.

Damron is a member of the Sons of Confederate Veterans group.

He spoke after a meeting in Tampa of the Hillsborough County commission to discuss plans to remove a Confederate monument near a public building and install it in a private cemetery

He said he doesn’t condone neo-Nazis or the KKK but believes white people should be able to stand up for what they feel is their cultural heritage, including monuments to the Confederacy.

“It’s OK for the black people, for African-Americans, to stand up for what they believe in — which I think they should, too. They should be proud. But why can’t I be proud of my heritage and who I stand for?”

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“HE SPEAKS HIS MIND”

Wyoming construction contractor Richard Mathern said he voted for Trump because of his business experience and wasn’t fazed he hadn’t spoken out more forcefully against the weekend violence.



The 48-year-old is among more than 68 percent of people in Wyoming who voted for Trump in the widest margin of victory in any state.

“Trump, he speaks his mind, there’s no doubt about that. It does tend to tick people off,” Mathern said during a break at a home nearing completion in Cheyenne.

“There’s a lot of hatred down there (in Charlottesville) ... But tearing down historical statues is not the answer,” he said.

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“HE WANTS THE ALT-RIGHT TO LIKE HIM”

David Hollender, a 51-year-old Orthodox Jew from Williamsburg in the New York City borough of Brooklyn, said he voted for Trump because he liked his ideas.



But he doesn’t agree with how the president has handled the aftermath of the Charlottesville violence.

“I don’t believe that Trump is anything like them, but I feel he wants the alt-right to like him,” Hollender said.

Will he support Trump in the future?

“I have to see,” Hollender said. “I don’t think I would vote for him again. It depends who the opposition is.”


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Posted by AggieDub14
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Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:46 pm to
oohhh ooohhhhh

You used Dave Chappelle! that means you won!
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:46 pm to
There are not enough "ardent backers" to do anything.

Subtract out the traditional republicans that voted for him simply because he is republican and the independents that voted for him because he was not HRC that are now aggravated at his clumsy management style and it is easy to see how his on going effectiveness is in doubt.
Posted by Dead End
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:48 pm to
Don't buy that horse shite line from the MSM.


MAGA
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
9847 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:48 pm to
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63-year-old black woman


What a description.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

President Trump’s ardent backers support him more than ever
I believe that, but he needed more than those ardent backers to win the election and he needs more than those ardent backers to effectively lead.
Posted by Old Hellen Yeller
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
9417 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:50 pm to
The 20% of the country that still supports him will do so regardless. It's everyone else that's had a fricking nough of this clown show.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:53 pm to
He doesn't need more than that to frick the GOP-e in the arse next election

He isn't going to lead liars like the moderate republicans anyway
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118843 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:55 pm to
Watch these smart beautiful female MAGAs give the media a dose of reality: Short CBS video.
Posted by jamboybarry
Member since Feb 2011
32653 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:55 pm to
WE GOT TO KEEP TRUMP IN PRESIDENT
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81818 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:56 pm to
The Bannon news sucks for now but we'll see
Posted by Rakim
Member since Nov 2015
9954 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 1:59 pm to
Thing you need to remember is that most of that first wave of staff had zero policy expertise and were all political appointments/ selections. Trump needs competent people around him because Trumo isn't exactly a wink either. That's why Miller is staying on board.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118843 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:00 pm to
quote:

The Bannon news sucks for now but we'll see


It does.


I expect Breitbart to ride the tight rope for a couple of weeks like they did when Cruz and Trump were fighting it out during the primaries.

After a few weeks this will be behind us. We have a budget battle to fight in a month or so. Breitbart readers love Trump's proposed budget. McConnell and Ryan hate it.
Posted by Contra
Member since Oct 2016
7521 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:00 pm to
They've been wanting him impeached since the minute he won all because their bitch lost.

Whether it's trying to link him to Russians, white supremacists, etc, we can see right through their bullshite.

Keep crying wolf at everything he does though.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33794 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:02 pm to
You can pick any candidate you want and put an R next to his name and he's going to have a contingent of the electorate that will support him no matter what. Same with the Ds. You can even forget the party designations. Any candidate is going to have their diehards.

So why is it noteworthy that Trump's most ardent supporters back him? That type of support exists for every president.
This post was edited on 8/18/17 at 2:06 pm
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:04 pm to
I have never been anywhere near an ardent supporter and I support him now more than ever.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38286 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:04 pm to
Family members and friends now have strained relationships because the identity politics the salt-left filth has brought into our society.

Shame.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118843 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

So why is it noteworthy that Trump's most ardent supporters back him? That type of support exists for every president.



Enthusiasm.

As you noted let's assume that just having an R and D behind your name gets you 40% each.

You fight for the remaining 20%. The candidate that gets the majority of the remaining 20% in selected districts wins. Enthusiasm is the basis for winning the remaining 20%.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
3048 posts
Posted on 8/18/17 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

There are not enough "ardent backers" to do anything.

Subtract out the traditional republicans that voted for him simply because he is republican and the independents that voted for him because he was not HRC that are now aggravated at his clumsy management style and it is easy to see how his on going effectiveness is in doubt.

...then add all the dem's who have witnessed their party turn into unhinged lunatics and it all evens out.
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