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Possibility of Obama wiretapping Trump raises questions
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:02 am
Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:02 am
We know the NSA vastly expanded under his watch and he directed federal agencies like the IRS to target political enemies. I'm wondering now if he was spying on Romney in the 2012 election.
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Posted on 3/5/17 at 12:26 am to DyeHardDylan
Maybe we can get to the bottom of why Romney never paid TRUMP back for the rug he destroyed now.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:09 am to DyeHardDylan
Presidents can't just decide to wiretap people. That's not how it works. If he was wiretapped, it would have been initiated by an federal judge.
This is simple: If Trump would simply offer evidence for his unsubstantiated claims, this would all be resolved. He accusing Obama of a crime. We need to get to the bottom of this.
Occam's Razor.
This is simple: If Trump would simply offer evidence for his unsubstantiated claims, this would all be resolved. He accusing Obama of a crime. We need to get to the bottom of this.
Occam's Razor.
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 7:11 am
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:11 am to DyeHardDylan
Don't forget Fox' James Rosen. Rotten to the core. 
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:14 am to a want
quote:fixed it.
If Obama would simply offer evidence for his unsubstantiated claims, this would all be resolved. He accusing Trump of a crime.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:22 am to a want
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Presidents can't just decide to wiretap people. That's not how it works. If he was wiretapped, it would have been initiated by an federal judge. This is simple: If Trump would simply offer evidence for his unsubstantiated claims, this would all be resolved. He accusing Obama of a crime. We need to get to the bottom of this.
It's like you completely disregard the fact that executive branch agencies argue for surveillance in front of the FISA court. Weird how you would leave that out.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:36 am to a want
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If he was wiretapped, it would have been initiated by an federal judge.
Not certain if you understand the meaning of the word initiated.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:37 am to a want
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a want
claims to be an "expert" on FISA law. Or could it be you're just regurgitating what you hear from the presstitutes?
Hmmm.... i'm guessing the latter.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:40 am to a want
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This post was edited on 1/10/21 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:43 am to jamboybarry
If Obama illegally ordered a wiretap for Trump, he should be prosecuted. I want to get to the bottom of this. So Why won't Trump simply provide evidence for his story? Let's put Obama in jail. Come on. Let's get on with it.
But he won't. Because it doesn't exist. He says these types of things because he knows people like you will believe and support him no matter how outrageous his claim is. You're "all in".
But he won't. Because it doesn't exist. He says these types of things because he knows people like you will believe and support him no matter how outrageous his claim is. You're "all in".
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:44 am to DyeHardDylan
Section 211. Clarification of scope...
Section 211 preserved all of the pre-existing standards in the applicable electronic-surveillance laws.
If agents want to use a pen register or trap-and-trace device (which record the numbers a telephone dials and from which it receives calls, but do not allow agents to listen to or record the contents of communications) or use a wiretap to listen to a cable customer's phone conversations, they still must apply for and receive a court order.
If agents want to use a wiretap, they must establish probable cause that criminal activity is afoot.
I'm still waiting for an explanation of the Criminal Activity.
If FBI Deputy Director McCabe informed the WH of no activity uncovered involving Trump Campaign Surrogates, then what was purpose of the FISA Warrant, and did the Obama Justice Dept go FISA Judge shopping to get the second Warrant approved.
Section 211 preserved all of the pre-existing standards in the applicable electronic-surveillance laws.
If agents want to use a pen register or trap-and-trace device (which record the numbers a telephone dials and from which it receives calls, but do not allow agents to listen to or record the contents of communications) or use a wiretap to listen to a cable customer's phone conversations, they still must apply for and receive a court order.
If agents want to use a wiretap, they must establish probable cause that criminal activity is afoot.
I'm still waiting for an explanation of the Criminal Activity.
If FBI Deputy Director McCabe informed the WH of no activity uncovered involving Trump Campaign Surrogates, then what was purpose of the FISA Warrant, and did the Obama Justice Dept go FISA Judge shopping to get the second Warrant approved.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:45 am to ladyluckUGA
If Trump offices were tapped by anyone in the govt that is pretty f'd up. I think Trump knows his offices were tapped. The people need to know who requested and who authorized it and why. Trump is the President and it sounds like he has that info and believes he could win a court case with circumstantial evidence that it goes back to the WH. There wont be 'hard evidence', they aren't that dumb.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:46 am to a want
quote:He has some anonymous sources in the intelligence community. That should be enough evidence for you right?
This is simple: If Trump would simply offer evidence for his unsubstantiated claims, this would all be resolved. He accusing Obama of a crime. We need to get to the bottom of this.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:46 am to a want
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it would have been initiated by an federal judge.
Negative. An application to wiretap Trump would have been APPROVED, not initiated by the FISA court.
FISA courts are nothing more than sitting probable cause anyway. I wonder how it feels to be a rubber stamp?
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:47 am to a want
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a want
Keep melting
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:47 am to a want
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If Obama illegally ordered a wiretap for Trump
I'm certain it was all done legally with FISA court approval. The question out there is why were the requests made in the first place.
You don't wiretap a presidential candidate's campaign headquarters without good reason. What was proven by those taps? Anything?
This post was edited on 3/5/17 at 7:49 am
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:47 am to a want
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Presidents can't just decide to wiretap people. That's not how it works. If he was wiretapped, it would have been initiated by an federal judge
Wrong.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:48 am to a want
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If Obama illegally ordered a wiretap for Trump
It will be funny to see the Obama camp try to use this to save face for spying on the current POTUS. If they legally got the FISA warrant then let's hear the argument. If not I hope Trump keeps This shite in the news cycle 24/7 so frickboi's like you can try to play the "it was a legally obtained warrant" schtick
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:49 am to a want
quote:But RUSSIANS
Occam's Razor.
Posted on 3/5/17 at 7:53 am to AUX3
These are serious, and I believe scurrilous, accusations. Trump needs to put up or shut up.
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