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Politico: Trump Infrastructure Plan in Trouble
Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:48 am
Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:48 am
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House Republicans are having trouble gaining enough votes to pass President Donald Trump's first infrastructure priority, a signal the legislation is in trouble, Politico's Playbook reported Saturday.
The lack of support could prove to be an embarrassment for Trump and Republican congressional leaders. Trump wants to privatize the nation's air traffic control system, but House Speaker Paul Ryan, Rep. Bill Shuster, R-Pa., who chairs the House Transportation Committee, Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao and the FAA's legislative affairs team have been unable to gain enthusiasm among House lawmakers.
As of Friday, the whip count lacked nearly a few dozen votes on the legislation. Lawmakers told Politico they wouldn't gain anything in their home states from supporting the effort, especially since some local leaders were against the legislation.
One lawmaker told Politico no one cared about modernizing air traffic control when road and bridges were in disrepair.
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Posted on 7/16/17 at 2:51 am to Rakim
About time the GOP gets primaried.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:11 am to Errerrerrwere
Healthcare
Tax Reform
Infrastructure
Those 3 aren't passed by midterms then I hope every Republican is kicked out of office. What's the point of controlling every branch if you can't pass meaningful?
Tax Reform
Infrastructure
Those 3 aren't passed by midterms then I hope every Republican is kicked out of office. What's the point of controlling every branch if you can't pass meaningful?
Posted on 7/16/17 at 3:23 am to Rakim
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. What's the point of controlling every branch if you can't pass meaningful?
It's the nature of the personality and makeup of the both parties.
The democrat party by nature is way more instinctively collectivistic and communal under one big tent that's more willing to yield to authority that can bargain under normal or extreme circumstances. Even rabble rousers like progs always come around in the end.
The GOP is way more individualistic, free wheeling and more and more likely to rebel against authority and giving zero fricks about it. The freedom caucus are the biggest offenders here. Even moderate and liberal republicans like Susan Collins and Charlie Dent vote against their party a lot and refuse to be team players.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 6:46 am to Rakim
I think we may need more parties. It appears that the Reps are composed of a coalition of conservatives, libertarians, and Rockefeller republicans. It's no surprise to me that the only thing they can agree on is that the Democrats have to be kept out of power. You would think the Rep factions could at least sit down and come up with a minimalist solution that they can all agree on and at least pass that. All they are doing is setting the stage for Dem gains at the midterm. It looks like they are going to stupidly squander their current advantage.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:40 am to Rakim
It's really not difficult. You find a road or bridge that's in bad need of repair in the district of each Democrat from a state Trump won, and those 10 red states that have Dem senators up for re-election.
Should have been his first project.
Should have been his first project.
This post was edited on 7/16/17 at 7:43 am
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:43 am to Sentrius
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Even moderate and liberal republicans like Susan Collins and Charlie Dent vote against their party a lot and refuse to be team players.
The notion that Susan Collins or Rand Paul would get primaried is comical. They vote exactly the way their constituents want, which isn't necessarily in line with your typical Trumpkin.
Whatever happened to this amazing dealmaker that got elected?
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:48 am to Sentrius
quote:
It's the nature of the personality and makeup of the both parties.
The democrat party by nature is way more instinctively collectivistic and communal under one big tent that's more willing to yield to authority that can bargain under normal or extreme circumstances. Even rabble rousers like progs always come around in the end.
The GOP is way more individualistic, free wheeling and more and more likely to rebel against authority and giving zero fricks about it. The freedom caucus are the biggest offenders here. Even moderate and liberal republicans like Susan Collins and Charlie Dent vote against their party a lot and refuse to be team players.
I couldn't disagree more. Republicans are way more team oriented.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:49 am to BamaGradinTn
Regardless of whether he is actually a good deal maker, Congress is full of petty children who care more about what Twitter and the media say about them than passing meaningful legislation. There isn't a person alive who could make that group behave like adults
Posted on 7/16/17 at 7:50 am to Rakim
There is a lot of reading between the lines by politico in that article. Infrastructure is where both parties should be able to come together.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:15 am to ILeaveAtHalftime
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Regardless of whether he is actually a good deal maker, Congress is full of petty children who care more about what Twitter and the media say about them than passing meaningful legislation. There isn't a person alive who could make that group behave like adults
Hey, I'm not necessarily disagreeing. I'm just saying that a lot of his supporters fell for his bullshite.
A lot of Trumpkins still can't grasp the fact that the Republican party isn't this vast, monolithic group that marches in lockstep behind one view on anything. Susan Collins and Rand Paul represent very different constituents. Trumpkins are apparently incapable of grasping that.
And yeah, the guy who ran on the promise that he would be the greatest dealmaker ever ought to be able to get them to the table.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:18 am to CoachChappy
quote:
There is a lot of reading between the lines by politico in that article. Infrastructure is where both parties should be able to come together.
Exactly. This should have been his first big project. Target the right Dems up for re-election and throw an infrastructure project at their district or state. Take out ads in their hometown newspapers. That would have been easy.
This post was edited on 7/16/17 at 8:53 am
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:30 am to clooneyisgod
quote:i think you are completely wrong. Want evidence? Try to get a prog to take a stance against their mainstream beliefs. They won't bc they will be ostracized, humiliated, and excommunicated from the group. There are always an issue or 2 that republicans drift away from the consensus. But you NEVER see some heavy duty prog who also loves guns. The leftists do not allow dissent. You parrot the company line, or they find someone who will.
I couldn't disagree more. Republicans are way more team oriented.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:34 am to Rakim
I'm jealous of the democRats ability to close ranks and march in tight lockstep.
It's one thing they do that no one else does better.
It's one thing they do that no one else does better.
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:37 am to Sentrius
quote:
It's the nature of the personality and makeup of the both parties.
The democrat party by nature is way more instinctively collectivistic and communal under one big tent that's more willing to yield to authority that can bargain under normal or extreme circumstances. Even rabble rousers like progs always come around in the end.
The GOP is way more individualistic, free wheeling and more and more likely to rebel against authority and giving zero fricks about it. The freedom caucus are the biggest offenders here. Even moderate and liberal republicans like Susan Collins and Charlie Dent vote against their party a lot and refuse to be team players.
^^^ Truth^^^
Posted on 7/16/17 at 8:40 am to BamaGradinTn
It sounds like you take politicians at their word in campaigns, which is a mistake. He has and had no control over congress. If you saw his dealmaking promises as something ironclad, well, I don't know what to tell you.
At the same time, if Congress would stop caring about Twitter and be adults, maybe he would be able to bring them to the table. Have you listened to Reps/Sens on both sides? At least half of them are a) uncompromising ideologues or b) pandering idiots. You can't reason with people like that.
At the same time, if Congress would stop caring about Twitter and be adults, maybe he would be able to bring them to the table. Have you listened to Reps/Sens on both sides? At least half of them are a) uncompromising ideologues or b) pandering idiots. You can't reason with people like that.
This post was edited on 7/16/17 at 8:40 am
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:08 am to LSUTIGER in TEXAS
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i think you are completely wrong. Want evidence? Try to get a prog to take a stance against their mainstream beliefs. They won't bc they will be ostracized, humiliated, and excommunicated from the group
yeah
they only allow this when the vote is safe (or dead for them) and they can allow DEMs in more purple areas to be more moderate to not piss off their local electorates. if those votes are needed, they're not allowed to break rank
Posted on 7/16/17 at 9:12 am to SlowFlowPro
Good example of this is the ACA.
Lots of Dems bit the dust as a result.
Lots of Dems bit the dust as a result.
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