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Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:39 pm to boosiebadazz
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I can't imagine she doesn't run.
She's got a lot of Frank Underwood in her. To me, her running is a foregone conclusion.
there are rumors she has some health issues. I can see that impacting the decision. Plus she is about to be a grandma. she will be almost 70 in 2016.
I would not be surprised either way.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:40 pm to Hawkeye95
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I do agree if she is running, she should start running now.
Yup. Time is not on her side and she will not be lucky enough to have a John McCain running against her.
This version of her? Formidable.
This version? Honestly? Not so much.
Optics. Not good.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:42 pm to Wolfhound45
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Time is not on her side and she will not be lucky enough to have a John McCain running against her.
I have yet to see the republicans trot out someone I think can beat her though. Paul would have the best shot but I seriously doubt he gets the nomination.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 12:46 pm to Hawkeye95
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I have yet to see the republicans trot out someone I think can beat her though. Paul would have the best shot but I seriously doubt he gets the nomination.
Agreed. They have to bring someone to compare/contrast (youthful but experienced) versus her experience (and she does have it - cannot be a U.S. Senator and Secretary of State without gaining some).
If it is (R) old/experienced versus (D/HRC) old/experienced, I would put money on a D/HRC victory. She does have her true believers (Rex, a want, Chicken).
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:08 pm to a want
quote:Just like 2008, eh?
It's a coronation if she runs. Remember: It's not normal for parties to ravage themselves from within during a primary.
Hillary isn't even electable within the democrat party. Well... at least, she wasn't six years ago. You think she's improved her standing?
This post was edited on 5/5/14 at 1:09 pm
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:09 pm to Taxing Authority
She ran into the buzzsaw that was the Hope and Change pretty, articulate black guy.
Nobody else was winning that primary but him.
Nobody else was winning that primary but him.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:11 pm to boosiebadazz
quote:Just wait until they trot out the "first", "historic" hispanic candidate...
She ran into the buzzsaw that was the Hope and Change pretty, articulate black guy.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:17 pm to boosiebadazz
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She ran into the buzzsaw that was the Hope and Change pretty, articulate black guy.
Nobody else was winning that primary but him.
Simply put, she ran into a more "likable" candidate.
It's hard to find a less "likable" candidate than Hillary.
Nixon's election was arguably the last time the less "likable" candidate won the office. I argue, it's a much bigger hurdle than a lot of people realize, and I'm with the guy who would prefer her to the current occupant.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:19 pm to boosiebadazz
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She ran into the buzzsaw that was the Hope and Change pretty, articulate black guy.
She ran into a machine that was absolutely dedicated to getting that gentleman elected. Nothing was going to stand in his way. And I am saying that as someone who would not have voted for either one of them.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:23 pm to Wolfhound45
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She ran into a machine that was absolutely dedicated to getting that gentleman elected.
The first black president claimed Obama had thrown the race card. What the Dems did to Hillary in Texas was the definition of poetic justice.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:23 pm to Taxing Authority
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Hillary isn't even electable within the democrat party. Well... at least, she wasn't six years ago. You think she's improved her standing?
She and obama had an epic battle, and she didn't get trounced. She won't let that happen again if she runs, and she likely inherits obama's machine for GOTV.
I do agree she is really unlikeable though.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:29 pm to Hawkeye95
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I do agree she is really unlikeable though.
Go watch any speech of her in any setting. Other than a handful of old yentas on the Upper West Side, who can she possibly relate to?
I will stand by a prediction that she doesn't get the nomination. As I've said, I'm more fearful of who may get it in her stead because I think Rand Paul (and any halfway likable republican) beats HER, but I'm not sure about or willing to wager on the currently unknown alternative.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:32 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Also we need to get to the bottom of why the Benghazi consulate asked for further protection and didn't get it. Was it because the president & Clinton was trying to buy back arms that they had given to Al Qada.
Your first question is extremely valid and significant.
Your second question made my head swivel.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:34 pm to Hawkeye95
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Not because they’re ever going to prove anything nefarious (though hey, you never know)
It's a real bitch when the opposition runs the dem's playbook.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:38 pm to Hawkeye95
quote:I seem to recall various posters saying this very same thing a full year ago and even before that
I will watch to see what happens but I bet this disappears in a few months.
I told each it would remain a major issue well into 2014.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:41 pm to Y.A. Tittle
The Democratic establishment knows Biden is unelectable, and (I hope) they realize Elizabeth Warren is too far to the left to get elected.
I don't think they rush Booker out there. Who else is in the stable? I feel like I'm missing someone.
I don't think they rush Booker out there. Who else is in the stable? I feel like I'm missing someone.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:42 pm to Y.A. Tittle
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Go watch any speech of her in any setting. Other than a handful of old yentas on the Upper West Side, who can she possibly relate to?
In the general, she would win women resoundingly. Obama did in 08/12, but HRC would do even better. She may not be able to relate to her, but never underestimate the power of the uterus! She would probably pull some crossover from republican ranks based on her being a woman.
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I will stand by a prediction that she doesn't get the nomination. As I've said, I'm more fearful of who may get it in her stead because I think Rand Paul (and any halfway likable republican) beats HER, but I'm not sure about or willing to wager on the currently unknown alternative.
I think the demographic thing is working against republican candidates with their current messaging.
The only game changer for republicans would be Rand Paul, who is unlikely to get the nomination. But he could attract cross over votes.
if the republicans nominate a soft conservative like christy, then I could see him winning too but its not a shoe-in.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:44 pm to Strannix
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The reports that came out recently, pretty much exonerated the white house on this. Read the report.
I'll wait for the special prosecutor
There will never be a Benghazi special prosecutor.
Posted on 5/5/14 at 1:44 pm to boosiebadazz
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I don't think they rush Booker out there. Who else is in the stable? I feel like I'm missing someone.
shite if I know? I'm thinking (hoping?) they are convinced of Hillary's "electability," I guess. I think it might explain their sudden clamoring to get Jeb Bush anointed as her opponent.
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