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Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:32 am to Choctaw
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this always happens. anytime the GOP expresses concern over a topic that is extremely damaging for the Dems, they immediately rush out and say its all for political gain and they don't really care.
There was a point where an investigation was warranted. A year and half and a few independent investigations later, along with a handful of Congressional hearings, and still no smoking gun, it's time to move on. Not to even mention the manner in which Issa conducted his hearings. We've long passed the point where this was a legitimate story. It turned into a political ploy to damage the sitting President and the potential 2016 Democratic presidential nominee a long time ago. Sorry not everyone shares your concern.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:34 am to a want
I don't think it is completely political but I am not naive enough to think that politics aren't playing a large role in all of this.
For me I just really want to know why we abandoned our people and did not even attempt to send in a rescue effort. I spent six years in the Army and one of the most important things that was drilled into me is that we never leave our people behind, NEVER. I also would like to know why we haven't brought anyone to justice yet. If the media can find some of these guys I am certain the CIA can.
For me I just really want to know why we abandoned our people and did not even attempt to send in a rescue effort. I spent six years in the Army and one of the most important things that was drilled into me is that we never leave our people behind, NEVER. I also would like to know why we haven't brought anyone to justice yet. If the media can find some of these guys I am certain the CIA can.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:34 am to The Spleen
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it's time to move on
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:36 am to The Spleen
Clearly there was no obfuscation or blocks to the investigation. Thanks for raising your hand as one of the Ignorant. Team first, right?
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:39 am to KeyserSoze999
So, I guess it isn't political, that the Dems want to move on, and sweep it under the rug. 
Liberals have blinders on, its amusing to see the circles they weave to sell their ideology.
Liberals have blinders on, its amusing to see the circles they weave to sell their ideology.Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:42 am to a want
ALL political? No. Is the GOP looking to make hay while the sun is shining? Yes. It's a dirty fricking game that they (Rs and Ds) play. I don't know how their mamas can be proud of them.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:43 am to BBONDS25
Yes, because not agreeing with someone else's opinion on a subject makes them ignorant. Real intelligent rebuttal.
And I'm on no team. I do not like Hillary and was hoping this would damage her chances for the Democratic nomination. Nor am I a fan of Obama.
And I'm on no team. I do not like Hillary and was hoping this would damage her chances for the Democratic nomination. Nor am I a fan of Obama.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:43 am to a want
Five years into his tenure in office and nothing is his fault not one damned thing. Crappy numbers in the 1st quarter of this years is blamed on the weather. Why do you and every lib poster polish the knob every day? Are you familiar with the duck test? He is a gold plated duck strutting around in his waddle.
ETA two rounds of golf recently came with a price tag of several millions for security each. Does that sound like someone that promised fiscal responsibility at work?
ETA two rounds of golf recently came with a price tag of several millions for security each. Does that sound like someone that promised fiscal responsibility at work?
This post was edited on 5/8/14 at 8:47 am
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:50 am to CamdenTiger
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and sweep it under the rug.
But there has already been the following:
The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence conducted a bipartisan investigation, with interviews of government officials and U.S. personnel on the ground during the attacks, and the review of “thousands of intelligence reports…and internal documents,” including emails, cables, and surveillance videos.
So what did it find? The committee’s 85-page report, released in January 2014, set forth in great detail the facts of the attack. The report concluded that the attack could have been prevented, and it faulted the State Department for failing to increase security. The intelligence community also was singled out for failing to properly assess the risks posed. However, the committee rejected Republican allegations of a political coverup.
and
The Republican-controlled House Armed Services Committee also conducted a comprehensive review of classified and unclassified documents, and interviewed people with relevant information.
The committee’s report, released in February 2014, laid the blame for the attack on White House officials, who failed “to comprehend or ignored the dramatically deteriorating security situation in Libya.” The committee also faulted the State Department for reducing security at the consulate. However, the committee denied assertions that a “stand down” order had been issued to U.S. military personnel not to assist U.S. personnel during the attack.
How many more investigations do you need?
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:52 am to a want
quote:Before the email showing a violation of the Hatch Act.
However, the committee rejected Republican allegations of a political coverup.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:54 am to a want
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It's clearly all political.
Really to me, it's all about accountability. I'd like to see if we could re-insert accountability into government (especially when people's lives are at stake.) Seriously, how could you bungle something this badly and not be held accountable? Not have brought anyone to justice over this?
I keep comparing it to work in the private sector. What if due to lack of planning or I was just having a bad day and I screwed up the big proposal and lost our best customer? And after the fact my boss wanted to know what went wrong and I came up with excuses and time lapses and there are no corrective actions. I guarantee you that I would not be in contention for my boss' position. I wouldn't be with the Company any longer.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:55 am to Jbird
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showing a violation of the Hatch Act.
Who came up with that? Newsmax? The Blaze? Daily Caller? Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:55 am to a want
How very REX of you.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:56 am to The Spleen
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And I'm on no team.
A quick trip through your posting history says otherwise.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:57 am to a want
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•A fundraising page from the NRCC with a photo of Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, accompanied by big bold text proclaiming: “Benghazi was a coverup. Demand answers.” — and asking for donations of up to $500. • A May 2 blog post from the National Republican Senatorial Committee titled “Dude, You’re Being Lied To About Benghazi.” The post was in response to former White House spokesman Tommy Vietor’s appearance on Fox News last week where he used the line “Dude, that was like two years ago.” It concludes: “Americans deserve the truth about Benghazi and it’s clear Democrats will not give it to them. Donate today and elect a Republican Senate majority.” •A May email blast from the conservative nonprofit Special Ops OPSEC Education Fund that asks for an “immediate contribution” of $25, $50, $100 or more to “hold Obama and Hillary’s feet to the fire until justice is done.” •A January email from Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) in the aftermath of the State of the Union noting that Obama “failed to mention Benghazi, the IRS, or the NSA” and asking for donations. • A John Bolton PAC email from April accused Obama, Clinton and former Defense Secretary Leon Panetta of refusing to take responsibility for “leaving Americans to die at the hands of terrorists.” •An email from Senate candidate Joe Miller saying that there is “strong evidence that senior administration officials crafted a false narrative for purely political purposes.” •An email this week from Rep. Scott Rigell’s (R-Va.) campaign asking for “$5, $10, $20, or $50 to help keep him in Congress and hold the Administration accountable” that also asks “Why didn’t the military respond to the events in Benghazi Were there even military assets in the region available? If not, why not? Who made the decision not to send support? House Republicans are committed to finding out the truth about Benghazi.” •An email from House candidate Andy Tobin accusing Obama of “covering up vital information about what happened that night” and asking for donations. • Conservative pundits and former politicians like Mike Huckabee, Allen West and others have sent emails to their lists, according to the liberal watchdog group Media Matters.
I pretty much agree with the high probability that all these assertions are substantive.
Book it, the reason for the low profile over there is that Obama was running guns to AQ in Syria, and they will go to the mat to hide it.
The Dems can boycott all they want, but it won't change the FACTS. When or if those emails come out, or one of the operatives...gets Jesus and decides to tell the truth.
Game on.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:58 am to a want
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How many more investigations do you need?
One more, with subpoena power will do nicely. We owe it to those guys.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 8:58 am to a want
Here's Senator Blumenthal defending use of Sandy Hook in campaign funding request. Are you outraged? Is it all political?
LINK
Here's the difference...Benghazi was directly related to the current administration and investigations directly related to sitting members of Congress.
Further, I'm not sure what's wrong with "making political" the actions/inactions of elected officials. Assuming the work "political" means to utilize for benefit of elections and to attempt to sway public opinion. The goal of both parties is to gain and retain control so why not point out what they perceive to be the faults of the other? If you're a dry cleaning company and your completion has shady business practices and blames all kinds of stuff on you? Why not point out these failings when they arise?
LINK
Here's the difference...Benghazi was directly related to the current administration and investigations directly related to sitting members of Congress.
Further, I'm not sure what's wrong with "making political" the actions/inactions of elected officials. Assuming the work "political" means to utilize for benefit of elections and to attempt to sway public opinion. The goal of both parties is to gain and retain control so why not point out what they perceive to be the faults of the other? If you're a dry cleaning company and your completion has shady business practices and blames all kinds of stuff on you? Why not point out these failings when they arise?
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Posted on 5/8/14 at 9:02 am to a want
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I've posted this for those who suggest this is some sort of pious "quest for the truth". It's clearly all political.
I'd suggest that on the left's part, it's been a not-so-pious quest to obfuscate and hide the truth. Which is even more political.
Posted on 5/8/14 at 9:04 am to a want
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How many more investigations do you need?
We want an investigation that has ALL of the pertinent (read, incriminating) facts. Obama/Holder/Dems hand over tens of thousands of worthless 'facts' and stall for years in the Courts...in order to withhold the enlightening few. And they, and folk like you, Want, then expect us to be okay with that?
Consider this post a contract: if Republicans pull this crap when they get in office, I'll call them out to put it ALL on the table too.
This is dangerous stuff. Where does rogue governance stop? "A little leavening, leaveneth the whole lump" (biblical).
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