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Please explain the media and political hate from the US regarding Israel

Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:53 pm
Posted by iheartchimichangas
Member since Jul 2016
748 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:53 pm
I understand the historical context of the land they control, but why is their a BDS movement some of our Congressional members support? Also why is the EU backing groups that support BDS?

Just trying to better understand all of the Israel hate. If it's too long for a post, then I'd appreciate a well explained link to read. Thanks!
Posted by SCLibertarian
Conway, South Carolina
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 12:55 pm to
You think the US media and political class hate Israel? What planet are you living on?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112517 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
Remember what all journalists are taught:
'Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable.'

The Palestinians are the poor, oppressed 'other'.
The Jews in Israel are the comfortable oppressors.

Posted by Caplewood
Atlanta
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
Posted by BeefDawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
4747 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
quote:

I understand the historical context of the land they control, but why is their a BDS movement some of our Congressional members support? Also why is the EU backing groups that support BDS?

Just trying to better understand all of the Israel hate. If it's too long for a post, then I'd appreciate a well explained link to read. Thanks!
The Left and Islamists have one major thing in common... They believe western culture is an unfair and oppressive product of white-dominated colonialism and must be brought to heel or destroyed.

Islamists want us destroyed while the Left wants us to become some egalitarian utopia, and this is where the two diverge. BUT, the Left is so full of hate and rage they don't care about using a monster to reach their goal. They believe they can control the monster once the monster realizes how awesome egalitarianism is.

Well Israel is simply another product of unfair oppressive western culture, and Palestinians can be useful by exploiting their victimhood, just as the Left does with every other "identity" they can turn into a victim.

It's weaponized victimhood.

Now why precisely do Omar and Tlaib hate Israel? Because they're massive Islamists. That's simple fact.

Why is the EU backing BDS groups? Because they want to see the US brought down. They think it's unfair that the US has the power it does and they don't. And Israel, by proxy, is merely a reflection of powerful western culture, and the biggest ally of the US.
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:14 pm to
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all of the Israel hate


what are you talking about
Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:17 pm to
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The Left and Islamists have one major thing in common...
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And Israel, by proxy, is merely a reflection of powerful western culture, and the biggest ally of the US.


There isn't much "Western" about Israel, if you know anything about Israel. Israel doesn't like the West.

and the left is just as beholden to Israel as the right.

41 Democrats went on an AIPAC-sponsored trip to Israel
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:31 pm to
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There isn't much "Western" about Israel, if you know anything about Israel. Israel doesn't like the West.

and the left is just as beholden to Israel as the right.




Looks Westernized to me perhaps you should take a trip over there so you don't look like so uniformed.

Posted by Pecker
Rocky Top
Member since May 2015
16674 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:36 pm to
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Looks Westernized to me


Good point. Some other nice pictures I found









Oh wait, that's Russia
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted by airlinehwypanhandler
Airline Highway
Member since Feb 2019
2130 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
It's called playing both sides
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81669 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:37 pm to
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what are you talking about
Oh look, it pecker.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19283 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:45 pm to
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Israel hate


Disagreeing with someone’s actions isn’t hate.

And WW2 is a shopworn excuse at this point.
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19283 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:47 pm to
Owning a bikini doesn’t make you Western. It means you own a bikini.

Also, what are we, the international bikini defense league?

I’m not opposed mind you.
This post was edited on 8/16/19 at 1:52 pm
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34119 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 1:51 pm to
Eastern European Marxists, which were predominantly Jewish. Migrated to the US, before and after WW2. Theyve become ensconced in Media and Finance.
Posted by Geauxrilla Ballz
S'port
Member since Jan 2009
672 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

I understand the historical context of the land they control, but why is their a BDS movement some of our Congressional members support? Also why is the EU backing groups that support BDS?

Just trying to better understand all of the Israel hate. If it's too long for a post, then I'd appreciate a well explained link to read. Thanks!


BDS (Boycott Divest Sanction) is non-violent resistance to support Palestinian human rights. There is an illegal occupation and human crisis going on right now with overwhelming support from our country based on misinformation and misleading leaders (who are all paid well by supporting entities).

BDS is a very effective method of resisting the illegal occupation of the State of Israel. It is not an antisemitic movement, as some will claim. Many Jews speak out in support of BDS.

Israel is an apartheid state, and very far from the Democracy they claim to be. Our elected leaders are all well paid by pro-Israel supporters, and effectively try to convince us Americans otherwise.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
26440 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:18 pm to
quote:

ust trying to better understand all of the Israel hate. If it's too long for a post, then I'd appreciate a well explained link to read.


Google the USS Liberty, that’s a good start. Israel is not our ally, we are their military R&D suppliers and nothing more.
Posted by G The Tiger Fan
Member since Apr 2015
103780 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 2:20 pm to
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Please explain the media and political hate from the US regarding Israel


What planet am I on now?
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
5604 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:00 pm to
Honestly, I am shocked and amazed at the hate toward Israel. From members of congress and members of this board.
Posted by Geauxrilla Ballz
S'port
Member since Jan 2009
672 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 3:15 pm to
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Honestly, I am shocked and amazed at the hate toward Israel. From members of congress and members of this board.



This board is overwhelmingly Pro Israel, which is pretty discouraging.

Israeli lobbyists target and capture both Democrats and Republicans equally. Apartheid is neither a conservative or liberal value, but it is really amazing how conservatives blindly support it.

The only explanation is widespread ignorance - which is quite obviously the problem. It is incredibly refreshing to see elected officials standing against what Israel has become - because it is not what our country stands for. Seeing our President overwhelmingly stand with other countries AGAINST American elected officials is a disgraceful, disgusting thing.

It is sad to see what we are becoming. Even more sad to see so much wide-spread ignorance and idealism.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25995 posts
Posted on 8/16/19 at 4:41 pm to
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Israel is an apartheid state, and very far from the Democracy they claim to be. Our elected leaders are all well paid by pro-Israel supporters, and effectively try to convince us Americans otherwise.


18 of the 120 members of the Israeli Knesset (i.e. Parliament) are Arab. Arabs serve on the Israeli Supreme Court. 20% of the population in Israel is Arab. Show me where the Apartheid is because the over 2 million arabs in Israel have full voting rights, can serve in government, and own their own land, serve in the military, and own businesses.

The Palestinians want to kill the Israeli Arabs perhaps some research or visiting the country will shed some light into the crap you are espousing.
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