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re: Pay Attention Politards: THIS Is How You Win A Real Debate

Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:10 pm to
Posted by PrimeTime Money
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:10 pm to
I couldn't even listen to that shite for more than 5 seconds at a time.
Posted by OleWar
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:10 pm to
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I found this Atlantic article that translates what is going on to those still in touch with Western Civilization, and its seemingly objective and rational rules.

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“Various procedures—regardless of whether we're talking about debate formats or law—have the ability to hide the subjective experiences that shape these seemingly ‘objective’ and ‘rational’ rules,” said UC Hastings Law School professor Osagie Obasogie
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 3:14 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:13 pm to
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I found this Atlantic article that translates what is going on to those still in touch with Western Civilization.


Pffffft...

You presented a cogent, rational response filled with facts and sources.

Take that White Privilege bullshite out of this thread!
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:14 pm to
White Devil bullshite if you ask me
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:17 pm to
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Team Cracker: Yes. thank you. We disagree with Team Gibberish when they said "the neeg..."um....when they were speaking about "Neeg...". Ummm.........we concede and surrender.


I want to make this clear:

I can see many debates ending like this in the future. No matter race.

Now that that's out the way, LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:22 pm to
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White Devil bullshite if you ask me


Pretty much. These new "policies and procedures" turn "debate" into insanity.

I can already picture vids of the next debates with white guilt ridden hipsters berating rednecks, Bush, etc, then raising a trophy. LOL
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:25 pm to
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And how the frick do you win a debate on war powers by totally ignoring the concept and instead focusing on topics like "Why whitey keeping us down"


I've explained this once before on this board. Probably should have gone in more detail. So, here it is, pay attention..

In the late 1970s Prof Shanahan, of U. Texas, came up with a strategy he called The Kritik. Not a misspelling.

The strategy was to ignore the topic and draw your opponent into the area where you had superior knowledge.

Think of it this way... if a monkey played an alligator in soccer the monkey would win. But if the alligator demanded that the game be played in a river, the alligator would win.

So, the kritik debater becomes expert in one area.. like race. He studies it for 2 months. If the topic is War Powers then all the race debater has to do is compile a lot of arguments in those 2 months why race is more important than War Powers.

The opponent has not spent 2 months compiling evidence why race is NOT more important than war powers so he loses if he is going to play on that ground.... (the river of the alligator).

The judges, who are hipsters, view themselves as Tabula Rasa. IE, I shall accept any argument that is not refuted. It's a farce. It's the lazy student's way to debate.

It is promulgated by grad students who run summer shops for HS debaters at major universities. They get paid to amuse HS kids. They don't care about logical thought. They simply want to do the least amount of research and concentrate that research on what issue they care the most about. War Powers does not interest them. Race does.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:41 pm to
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The strategy was to ignore the topic and draw your opponent into the area where you had superior knowledge.


Soooo...when you and I debate, I can expect to be taken down the path of exploring uses of Metamucil, Viagra, false teeth, and sock garters?
Posted by Broke
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:42 pm to
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Soooo...when you and I debate, I can expect to be taken down the path of exploring uses of Metamucil, Viagra, false teeth, and sock garters?


And Lawrence Welk

Do I need to provide a link? There is no way a black man knows who Lawrence Welk is.
Posted by udtiger
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:45 pm to
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Because the number of pancakes needed to roof the barn is potato! Did I win?


Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 3:57 pm to
They know how to play the game. When you can't make a rational argument:

1. Claim racism.
2. Let the white guilt and/or black power emotions of the judges gestate.
3. Claim your prize.




I really don't care how much flak I take over this but this is a great example of how many in the black community are raised. The perpetual victim.
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:01 pm to
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Soooo...when you and I debate, I can expect to be taken down the path of exploring uses of Metamucil, Viagra, false teeth, and sock garters?


Wrong. Don't use any. My big weakness is eye sight. Without contacts I'm blind as a bat. Also, when I drop something on the floor I always check around to see if there is anything else down there before I get up.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:05 pm to
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when I drop something on the floor I always check around to see if there is anything else down there before I get up.






Wisdom born of age
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:05 pm to
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And Lawrence Welk

My mom was in love with LW. Lucy does not allow me to watch it on PBS. I do a great IRL impression of LW:

"Anda now ladies anda gentlemena...here isa our version of a popular tune for the younger people...by AC anda DC .. Hiway to Hella!!!"
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:08 pm to
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Lucy does not allow me to watch it on PBS.


It's the incredibly expansive minutiae of Lucy's "rules" that I find so fascinating.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:11 pm to
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They know how to play the game. When you can't make a rational argument: 1. Claim racism. 2. Let the white guilt and/or black power emotions of the judges gestate. 3. Claim your prize. I really don't care how much flak I take over this but this is a great example of how many in the black community are raised. The perpetual victim.


In other words: the chess-playing pigeon strategy
Posted by wickowick
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:11 pm to
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At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:13 pm to
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In other words: the chess-playing pigeon strategy


Not familiar with that one
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:20 pm to
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chess-playing pigeon



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Not familiar with that one


Arguing with someone who is ignorant but holds a strong view on a subject (and is too dumb to be educated on the topic) is like playing chess with a pigeon.


The bird just knocks the pieces over, shits on the board, and flies to his flock claiming victory
This post was edited on 5/19/14 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Zach
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Posted on 5/19/14 at 4:21 pm to
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It's the incredibly expansive minutiae of Lucy's "rules" that I find so fascinating.


I'm still keeping book. I attribute it to being an only child.
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