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re: Our President's Tweets for this morning.

Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:31 am to
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:31 am to
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Pretty sure he's referencing a growing animosity with a world power that is being fueled by congressional actions based on a phony collusion story.

But I could be wrong.


If our President wasn't a complete and total pussy on Russia, it wouldn't be necessary. Take your pro-Trump glasses off for a second. Collusion narrative aside, is Russia somehow our ally? Are they not unceasingly trying to undermine our interests?

I do not buy most of the Russia narrative. But Trump is an egomaniac who will lash out at the slightest insult, unless it comes from Russia. That's odd.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:31 am to
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who just insulted him and the US publicly on twitter FFS


So twitter means something now?
Posted by fargobison
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:32 am to
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All of those are accurate.



Except the first one, I think I'll blame the murderous dictator in Russia for our relations problem. He needs to just shut up about the whole Russia thing if he is unable to put America first.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:34 am to
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Be honest. Had he not signed it, you and others here would be screaming that he is a Russian stooge and using this to further bolster the baseless "collusion" claim.

amirite?



If he doesn't sign the bill automatically becomes law regardless of his signature and all the anti-Trumpers scream collusion.

When he does sign it all the anti-Trumpers complain that Trump's legal team advised Trump that the bill is potentially unconstitutional because it ties the executive branch's hands to negotiate with a foreign power.

Don't worry anti-Trumpers, Trump has America's interest first. That's likely the anti-Trumper's biggest worry...putting America first.
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:34 am to
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So twitter means something now?



This is a dumb attempted deflection. It doesn't reflect anything I've ever said re: Twitter and reveals the kneejerk defense mechanisms of people who simply can't tolerate any critique of the President.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:34 am to
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Strange how he's more worried about his relationship with Russia than he is his relationship with Congress.
why would anyone want a relationship with Congress?
Posted by Pettifogger
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:35 am to
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why would anyone want a relationship with Congress?



To pursue a massive legislative agenda you ran on?

Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119034 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:36 am to
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Just imagine if Congress gave a frick about Americans too.




It would be nice it they got on the same page as the American people.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:37 am to
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why would anyone want a relationship with Congress?


is this a serious question?
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:38 am to
If they can't do something with healthcare. They can't do anything.

Congress has been dysfunctional for a decade. The only fix is getting rid of all of em. That won't happen. That makes any energy spent trying to work w them on substantive matters is wasted
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
40486 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:38 am to
It's true, Our Congress is a joke.
Posted by AuburnTigers
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:40 am to
Letus know when you come up with an answer
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:40 am to
Shorter Trump: Russia dindu nuffin.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:41 am to
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That makes any energy spent trying to work w them on substantive matters is wasted


then Trump will be a lame duck POTUS

Posted by Alabamya
Da Ham
Member since Jan 2009
9179 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:41 am to
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can't do something with healthcare.


But they can pump out some Russia sanctions. frick Congress. Trump needs to call them out just like the American people are doing.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:41 am to
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This is a dumb attempted deflection. It doesn't reflect anything I've ever said re: Twitter and reveals the kneejerk defense mechanisms of people who simply can't tolerate any critique of the President.


No it isn't.

You know damn well there wasn't anything he could do but sign that bill. But you want to use it as some gotcha moment. It was going to pass even if he didn't sign it and if he didn't sign it would be fuel for "muh russians" bullshite narrative.

You also know that there is a part of congress that isn't going to work with him no matter what. That should piss off everyone except you want to try to make that a gotcha moment, too.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
119034 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:43 am to
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Russia somehow our ally?


On a sliding scale they have become more of our enemy this last year and not because of any actions by Trump.

quote:

I do not buy most of the Russia narrative. But Trump is an egomaniac who will lash out at the slightest insult, unless it comes from Russia. That's odd.


So you don't buy the narrative? I have to assume that you don't buy the narrative because the underlying reasons for the narrative do not exist.

So you want Trump to lash out at something that does not exist?

That sounds delusional.
This post was edited on 8/3/17 at 8:52 am
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56508 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:44 am to
Basically they all are
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:44 am to
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So you want Trump to lash out at something that does not exist?

That sounds delusional.


Trump lashes out at shite that doesn't exist all the time, so
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Member since Nov 2012
9820 posts
Posted on 8/3/17 at 8:44 am to
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Explain to me why relations with Russia are the fault of Congress?

Trump signed the sanctions bill, did he not?


His only move was to sign it. He had no other move.

If he veto's Congress just overrides and he looks even worse.

He signed it, he doesn't have to like it.
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