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re: Our Greatest Geopolitical Problem ?

Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:15 pm to
Posted by Navytiger74
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:15 pm to
Long term, China.

The economic rise of the developing world as a whole will require a pretty substantial evolution in our economy.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:16 pm to
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I'm all for moving away from unfettered capitalism. It is an economic relic of the 20th century. Endless growth via consumerism to grow the economy indefinitely is unsustainable.


We do need to move more toward a socialist economy with an emphasis on generous social-welfare benefits for American citizens.

You see Democrats are actually capitalists. They push for easy immigration policies to help provide for cheaper labor for capitalists. Democrats win both ways with their immigration policy. They get voters and they get cheaper labor for capitalists.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:18 pm to
Our greatest geopolitical problem is Islamists Jihadism. It is tied to our policy in the middle east toward Israel and backing the Saudi's at the same time.

China and Russia want their own spheres of Influence. We can manage that.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35661 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:20 pm to
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Our Greatest Geopolitical Problem ?

Vote Here:

1). The Corporate/Banking Fascist Elite that have hijacked my country.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:22 pm to
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I could also see everything mentioned above weakening us enough socially and economically to the point that we are easy targets for Russia, China to overthrow





We are going to tear ourselves to pieces before any that comes to pass. I have been reading up on the lead up to our first civil war and the simalarities are stunning. The Hatred we see from opposite ends of the political spectrum from basically the same players is pretty scary.
Posted by Ralph_Wiggum
Sugarland
Member since Jul 2005
10674 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:23 pm to
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1). The Corporate/Banking Fascist Elite that have hijacked my country.


We have much to discuss.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 4:54 pm to
Islam. Unless Graham Negative beats em' to the punch.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90848 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 6:00 pm to
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1. Russia


Will always be second fiddle to the US. They make noise when we have a weak President but when we have a strong leader they are irrelevant.

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2. Islamic Jihadists


THese guys wouldn't even be in discussion if we stopped playing War games over there. They hate us because we go over there and put in a Government that we like, and they see it as a threat to their traditional religion and practices. Sure they are violent and practically insane, but if we just left them alone and stopped interfering then they'd be no problem to us. Like every human being, they love money. No matter who is in charge, they will sell us oil.

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3. Other (name it)


Our biggest problem is immigration. Hordes of immigrants coming over looking for a free ride, and a rapidly changing demographic. 3rd world people will gladly give up freedom for state sponsored safety at the expense of others. If we don't get our borders closed and cut off some welfare and get the economy back on track, then we're toast within the next 25 years. Everything will collapse and who knows what will emerge from the collapse. Maybe it'd take care of itself and we would keep our Constitution intact and just start over. Maybe we'd lose it all and end up in full tyranny. I don't want to find out honestly
Posted by Paul Allen
Montauk, NY
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:16 pm to
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Posted by TigerPride10
Member since Jul 2007
10356 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:36 pm to
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Greatest Geopolitical Problem ?


quote:

2. Islamic Jihadists (Al Qaeda, ISIS, Hamas, Hezbollah, etc)


Radical Islam is not a geopolitical problem, by definition.

To answer your question, the most important geopolitical challenges for the US in the next 20-50 years will come from:

1. Russia
2. China
3. Mexico

The important thing to note is that challenges do not necessarily mean armed conflict.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 6/16/14 at 8:38 pm to
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The important thing to note is that challenges do not necessarily mean armed conflict. 



This. But it is possible. This board would be a lot easier to deal with if everyone understood that war was simply the most extreme spectrum of diplomacy.
Posted by redandright
Member since Jun 2011
9622 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:00 pm to
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Our Greatest Geopolitical Problem ?


Having a President who doesn't care.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48861 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:02 pm to
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? I could also see everything mentioned above weakening us enough socially and economically to the point that we are easy targets for Russia, China to overthrow.


Overthrow? Are you kidding? China can't get along and no way the seaport cities and provinces, who are very pro Western would be supportive and no way can the interior, which are jealous of the seaports and are very poor could do anything. No Navy either.

Russia is a shrinking demographic and getting old. Putin can make waves locally and nibble around the edge of the Balkins and that's about it.

As long as America has a strong Navy and controls the global waters it's interests are pretty damn safe.

A middle east in shambles is not always a bad thing. It keeps regional powers from growing too much which might increase extremist groups and by virtue terrorism, but still keeps the area in check.

And regardless of immigration, the Southern borderlands will always and continue to be Hispanic influenced which will gradually creep North and gain much political influence in the coming decades.
Posted by araminta
Tennessee, USA
Member since Apr 2005
423 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:12 pm to
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1). The Corporate/Banking Fascist Elite that have hijacked my country.


I agree.
Posted by Navytiger74
Member since Oct 2009
50458 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

1). The Corporate/Banking Fascist Elite that have hijacked my country.


Just so we're cutting through the codes and dog-whistles.



You boys are crazy.
This post was edited on 6/16/14 at 9:21 pm
Posted by 90proofprofessional
Member since Mar 2004
24445 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:34 pm to
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You see Democrats are actually capitalists. They push for easy immigration policies to help provide for cheaper labor for capitalists.



We have a price floor for labor, which Democrats consistently argue for raising.
Posted by LaFlyer
Member since Oct 2012
1043 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 9:58 pm to
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genuineLSUtiger
Our Greatest Geopolitical Problem ? The US is an empire which will crumble from within like the Roman Empire. Primarily by 3rd world immigrants coming from Mexico and terrorists from the Middle East. The buildup will be slow but the collapse will be swift.


Absolutely correct and will happen as we withdraw from our outer areas of influence just as Rome lost ground in the Northern regions, Egypt, but even more importantly by political power gained by citizens from formerly conquered areas with divergent views unlike what made Rome great. The fear of political unrest caused leaders to essentially buy citizens with sport and grain. The sport requiring more and more drama to satisfy the bloodlust and tax dollars used to buy more grain and other items to give to citizenry to buy peace at expense of military force. And on and on until here we are
Posted by LaFlyer
Member since Oct 2012
1043 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 10:02 pm to
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1). The Corporate/Banking Fascist Elite that have hijacked my country.


There's a whole lot of leftist cliches in that statement.
Posted by DonChowder
Sonoma County
Member since Dec 2012
9249 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 10:21 pm to
4. Ourselves.
Posted by TX Tiger
at home
Member since Jan 2004
35661 posts
Posted on 6/16/14 at 10:35 pm to
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1). The Corporate/Banking Fascist Elite that have hijacked my country.








Just so we're cutting through the codes and dog-whistles. You boys are crazy.


Posting your disagreement with a statement, then having someone accuse you of agreeing with it. And topping it with an ad hominem attack.

This board never fails to entertain.
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