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re: Oh oh, W is gaining on O
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:10 pm to ChineseBandit58
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:10 pm to ChineseBandit58
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But he was surely a totally inept and stupid POTUS.
Carter came in during the anti-everything reaction to the Watergate scandal. Carter was a governor of a southern state. None of that level of scandal could attach itself to him! But he had his good ol’ boys were were totally overmatched by the players in DC. Plus Carter was a micromanager and control freak. He didn’t know how to manage or delegate. He did at least once collapse in exhaustion. I still can’t stand to hear his voice.
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Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:14 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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I still can’t stand to hear his voice.
This is one of my areas of useless expertise.
His voice is called 'high pitched stocatto'. The sentence structure is..
quick monotone.... pause....quick monotone...pause
It's not as bad as LBJ who could drag 'I come to you here today' into a 30 second phrase.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:24 pm to Loserman
quote:
Without Carter being so fricking inept we would have never gotten Reagan!
Without Carter, the world would be an entirely different place today. You can trace a shite ton of today's problems in the Middle East directly back to the presidency of that fricking fool.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:32 pm to DarthRebel
trump is so shockingly unlikable its making people rethink W. just look at the difference between trump and Obama this past Sunday
Obama comes across as an actual human being, trump rants about how wonderful he is despite the secret army out to get him.
and naturally Obama had 4x as many "likes" as all 3 trump posts combined.
Obama comes across as an actual human being, trump rants about how wonderful he is despite the secret army out to get him.
and naturally Obama had 4x as many "likes" as all 3 trump posts combined.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:49 pm to WhiskeyPapa
the "war on terror" would have happened either way. its what we do.
i was born in 1981. the US has been at war for 45 percent of my life ( chart to see your percentage ).
the US is 241 years old, and we've been in some form of combat for 220 of those years. thats over 91 percent.
its been this way forever. it started with imperialism.
Marine Major General Butler...
and so then of course we needed to send troops to protect all the stuff that we were taking. and that fed the defense industry...
and now that industry has bought the government.
congress gives them 2 billion, they give the congressmen 1 billion back. over and over and over.
and you cant buy new bullets if you haven't fired all the old ones, and so, as if by magic, we always have some new reason to fire all the old ones.
i was born in 1981. the US has been at war for 45 percent of my life ( chart to see your percentage ).
the US is 241 years old, and we've been in some form of combat for 220 of those years. thats over 91 percent.
its been this way forever. it started with imperialism.
Marine Major General Butler...
and so then of course we needed to send troops to protect all the stuff that we were taking. and that fed the defense industry...
and now that industry has bought the government.
congress gives them 2 billion, they give the congressmen 1 billion back. over and over and over.
and you cant buy new bullets if you haven't fired all the old ones, and so, as if by magic, we always have some new reason to fire all the old ones.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:52 pm to WhiskeyPapa
It's appropriate that you post those pictures of the amputees.
The biking photos of Bush are all taken during his annual rides with Wounded Warriors, and he loves every minute of it.
His work with the organization has been fantastic--they're very appreciative.
The biking photos of Bush are all taken during his annual rides with Wounded Warriors, and he loves every minute of it.
His work with the organization has been fantastic--they're very appreciative.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 4:53 pm to WhiskeyPapa
quote:
The leadership of this country has been shite since JFK.
JFK was the biggest piece of shite president in the 20th century.
The two greatest Americans of the 20th century were Lee Harvey Oswald and Sirhan Sirhan.
Edit:
I would add that he wasn't just a piece of shite as a President but he was a pice of shite his whole life.
Everything about him was a lie. His being a war hero was a lie. He should have been court marshaled for PT109. He disobeyed orders which put his PT boat where it was. He and his crew were drunk and asleep on watch which led to his ship being struck and sunk.
He didn't write Profiles in Courage that he received a Pulitzer Prize for. His life is made up bullshite.
He caused the Cuban Missile Crisis and almost brought us to WW3.
His own damn stupid arse brother wanted to sink one of our own ships to start a war with Russia during it. RFK's quote was we should do this and then take it to the press as a Remember the Maine incident.
Thank God he and his brother were killed. Too bad no one killed Teddy too.
This post was edited on 6/20/17 at 5:23 pm
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:30 pm to WhiskeyPapa
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I am an FDR Democrat.
We all know that about you.
You are a socialist/marxist. People Unite Union guy.
Hopefully you will always drink too much to ever make it to the polls.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 5:33 pm to DarthRebel
Fake polls. No way either man is more popular than Our President.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:02 pm to Loserman
dude,you have issues...links?
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:14 pm to DarthRebel
In 100 years both will be as significant as Rutherford B. Hayes or Grover Cleveland (to pick one of each).
Unless you majored in history you can't recall anything either did most likely, but they were covered breathlessly during their terms I am certain.
That is how these guy's will be in 2120.
Unless you majored in history you can't recall anything either did most likely, but they were covered breathlessly during their terms I am certain.
That is how these guy's will be in 2120.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:15 pm to DarthRebel
This proves what I have always suspected. At least 63% of Americans are total morons.
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:38 pm to DarthRebel
Don't know why people continue to believe these stupid polls, it's all FAKE! No way in hell odumbo has 63%
Posted on 6/20/17 at 6:52 pm to griswold
odumbo?you have lost any credibility with this slant.
you would not give him any credit if he had ok'ed bin laden's death.
you would not give him any credit if he had ok'ed bin laden's death.
Posted on 6/21/17 at 9:37 am to WhiskeyPapa
People need to hold Bush 43 accountable for what he actually did.
"Then, in March 2003, in a decision, unconstrained by reality and uninformed by strategic analysis, the U.S., opened a secondary theater. It was a war of choice, against an odious but secular dictator, who was in no way linked to the events of 9/11. Scores of books and articles have examined the colossally bad decision to go into Iraq in 2003. We won’t add to that body of analysis and interpretation. For the purposes of this series, that aim to amplify examples of the United States’ propensity to conflate policy and tactics, to substitute action for strategy, suffice it to note that the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq served no real political or strategic objective. Instead, it resulted in the creation of more insurgents and terrorists animated by the Salafi-Wahhabi-jihadist creed, a power vacuum, and the very chaos and instability that helped lead to the emergence of ISIS."
The sequence of disconnected events following the 2003 invasion of Iraq resulted in the replacement of Saddam Hussein’s government with a predominantly Shiite administration. The Sunni majority areas of the country suffered from vast unemployment, aggravated by a near-total loss of assets and political influence. “Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breeding ground for Sunni discontent, from which al Qaeda in Iraq took root.”
Three and a half years into the Iraq war, on 6 December 2006, the Iraq Study Group released its report. One of several approaches offered in the report advocated a significant surge in U.S. ground troops to help train Iraqi Army units and secure the population. The idea of a surge was contentious for war-weary Americans, but ultimately the prospect of expanding military operations, in lieu of conducting the hard work of generating viable strategic options and putting into place thoughtful, well-crafted policy, won the day. Accordingly, and in keeping with our culturally ingrained and increasing propensity to distort Clausewitz’s cardinal axiom, the United States introduced the surge itself as the new “strategy” in Iraq. The new objective – neither strategic nor political in the traditional sense – was to find a way out of Iraq without explicitly acknowledging defeat.
Much like peering through the looking glass, “the war on terror has been like the nouveau roman, with no coherent plot, only jarring disjunctions of cause and effect, time and place.”
LINK
"Then, in March 2003, in a decision, unconstrained by reality and uninformed by strategic analysis, the U.S., opened a secondary theater. It was a war of choice, against an odious but secular dictator, who was in no way linked to the events of 9/11. Scores of books and articles have examined the colossally bad decision to go into Iraq in 2003. We won’t add to that body of analysis and interpretation. For the purposes of this series, that aim to amplify examples of the United States’ propensity to conflate policy and tactics, to substitute action for strategy, suffice it to note that the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq served no real political or strategic objective. Instead, it resulted in the creation of more insurgents and terrorists animated by the Salafi-Wahhabi-jihadist creed, a power vacuum, and the very chaos and instability that helped lead to the emergence of ISIS."
The sequence of disconnected events following the 2003 invasion of Iraq resulted in the replacement of Saddam Hussein’s government with a predominantly Shiite administration. The Sunni majority areas of the country suffered from vast unemployment, aggravated by a near-total loss of assets and political influence. “Rather than promoting religious integration and unity, American policy in Iraq exacerbated sectarian divisions and created a fertile breeding ground for Sunni discontent, from which al Qaeda in Iraq took root.”
Three and a half years into the Iraq war, on 6 December 2006, the Iraq Study Group released its report. One of several approaches offered in the report advocated a significant surge in U.S. ground troops to help train Iraqi Army units and secure the population. The idea of a surge was contentious for war-weary Americans, but ultimately the prospect of expanding military operations, in lieu of conducting the hard work of generating viable strategic options and putting into place thoughtful, well-crafted policy, won the day. Accordingly, and in keeping with our culturally ingrained and increasing propensity to distort Clausewitz’s cardinal axiom, the United States introduced the surge itself as the new “strategy” in Iraq. The new objective – neither strategic nor political in the traditional sense – was to find a way out of Iraq without explicitly acknowledging defeat.
Much like peering through the looking glass, “the war on terror has been like the nouveau roman, with no coherent plot, only jarring disjunctions of cause and effect, time and place.”
LINK
This post was edited on 6/21/17 at 9:43 am
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