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Obamacare is really a tax on healthy single young men for being alive

Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:46 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:46 pm
That's right, folks.

Most healthy young men never have to go to the hospital but under Odumacare they are being forced to pay anyway and their money is being used to pay for the healthcare of both young and old women who go to the hospital every time they catch a cold.

This is being done so that young and old women can be "independent" and not have to depend on a man to help them.

So all you healthy young men should celebrate when Trump dumps Odumacare.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 4:05 pm
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:47 pm to
What percentage of the deficit is associated with Obamacare subsidies? Now do retired military pensions.
Now feel stupid.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:47 pm to
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healthy young men


why just healthy young men?

Do you know what premiums are for member+spouse+family?

It's a tax on all healthy people above the subsidy line.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:48 pm to
Healthy young men have absurdly low premiums, so that's not quite what you think it is.

More a tax on the wealthy (the real reason Republicans hate it) and some business/insurance taxes.

But sure, keep on red pilling if that makes you feel better.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:48 pm to
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all healthy people above the subsidy line.


Only 3% of the country is in the individual exchange without a subsidy.

Again, no.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:49 pm to
quote:

Obamacare is really a tax on healthy young men for being alive


quote:

What percentage of the deficit is associated with Obamacare subsidies? Now do retired military pensions


Wat? Took that in a totally different direction, huh?
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112489 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:50 pm to
quote:

It's a tax on all healthy people above the subsidy line.


True. The Zachs are healthy but not young and we are above the subsidy line. Our tax from Obamacare was $3,000 per year.
Posted by Tigerdev
Member since Feb 2013
12287 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:50 pm to
Illustration of how "conservatives"have been tricked by politicians to focus on drops in the bucket rather than true cost drivers.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61270 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Healthy young men have absurdly low premiums, so that's not quite what you think it is.


Compared to what? Its still a crazy net loss. I pay monthly premiums that have to go somewhere and its certainly not an inconsequential amount, probably just pure insurance company profit. I don't need to health care much, and the deductible will never be met.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

Only 3% of the country is in the individual exchange without a subsidy.


Exchange plans have had no pricing pressure on private group plans. Nope. None at all. No premium increases. No deductible increases. No OOP increases. No benefit requirements.

They have just been price and plan model stagnant for the past 6 years. Right?

quote:

Again, no.


Again, you're ideology in favor of reality is both sad and disappointing.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 2:54 pm
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
21897 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

Exchange plans have had no pricing pressure on private group plans.


They have, which is why premium costs in those groups have slowed their increase compared to pre-ACA.

You're welcome.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:53 pm to
Hahahaha

Same sort of mother fricker who bitches about the cost of drug testing the media

10 trillion mother fricking dollars added to the debt
Posted by Aristo
Colorado
Member since Jan 2007
13292 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:53 pm to
How much of my paycheck goes to the military and how much of my paycheck goes to health insurance. Well, I know 1,400 plus a month is for health insurance, not really sure about the military. Not really a drop in a bucket.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112489 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

More a tax on the wealthy

But the Obama adm argued in the Supreme Court that it was not a tax. So, were they lying?
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:55 pm to
This is why it is so difficult to do politics in the USA.

Obamacare has good and bad points. No-one denies that. Even the biggest Obamacare haters will concede that the pre-existing condition thing is good and even the biggest Obamacare fans will say that maybe people shouldn't have to pay for abortions.

But then you get posts like this.

quote:

This is being done so that young and old women can be "independent" and not have to depend on a man to help them.


And you throw up your hands because how do you fight lunacy?
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
65748 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:55 pm to

I'm sure your friends here will come in droves to praise you for such brilliant analysis

Anyone want to side with him?
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Most healthy young men never have to go to the hospital but under Odumacare they are being forced to pay anyway and their money is being used to pay for the healthcare of both young and old women who go to the hospital every time they catch a cold.


By that logic you shouldn't have to pay car insurance unless you wreck your car.
Posted by Eurocat
Member since Apr 2004
15047 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

Compared to what? Its still a crazy net loss. I pay monthly premiums that have to go somewhere and its certainly not an inconsequential amount, probably just pure insurance company profit. I don't need to health care much, and the deductible will never be met.


Says you until you get into a car crash tonight.

Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36047 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 2:58 pm to
I was talking with a guy this weekend who had insurance, but never got to use it because the deductibles were so high and he never reached them.

So what we have done is run around bragging about all the people with insurance, but the hidden factor is that many people in the working class no longer go to the dr.; instead they try and tough things out because now they have to fit the entire doctor's bill until they reach the deductible.

Giving people health insurance isn't the same as giving people healthcare.
Posted by MSMHater
Houston
Member since Oct 2008
22775 posts
Posted on 1/16/17 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

They have, which is why premium costs in those groups have slowed their increase compared to pre-ACA.

You're welcome.


Lulz. You've read and reposted your talking points so much I think you're actually beginning to believe them.



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