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Obama denied Mattis plans to hit Iran over involvement in US troop deaths
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:29 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:29 am
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We can't be bombing his baws now can we?
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Iranian-supplied rockets killed as many as 15 U.S. troops per month in Iraq in the summer of 2011, and Marine Corps Gen. James Mattis had a plan to retaliate. The Obama administration denied his request.
[quote]The plan was to make it clear to the the Iranian government that providing rockets to its Shiite proxy insurgents inside Iraq was no longer going to be tolerated. Mattis suggested a nighttime strike against a power plant or oil refinery within Iranian territory.
We can't be bombing his baws now can we?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:47 am to bamarep
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Robert M. Gates, Mr. Obama’s first defense secretary, wrote in his memoirs that Mr. Obama deeply distrusts senior military leaders and suspects them of conspiring against him. He recalled one meeting in which the president resorted to a clipped “That’s an order” to the top brass.
“That order was unnecessary and insulting, proof positive of the depth of the Obama White House distrust of the nation’s military leadership,” a “shocked” Mr. Gates wrote.
The controlling nature of the Obama White House and the staff took micromanagement and operational meddling to a new level,” he said in his memoir, “Duty.” “I think Obama considered time spent with generals and admirals an obligation.”
Mr. Gates’ successor, Leon E. Panetta, wrote in his memoir, “Worthy Fights,” that the White House — read Mr. Obama — saw generals who swayed from its talking points as conspirators. One incident involved a disagreement over troop levels in Afghanistan.
“The White House saw this as a coordinated effort to limit the president’s decision space, while Gates saw it as evidence that the Pentagon brass was unable to stay on message,” Mr. Panetta wrote. “For my part, it seemed that the leading generals saw the problem the same way and weren’t good about keeping quiet, but not that they were organizing a campaign against their president.”
Army Gen. Stanley A. McChrystal ended up getting fired by the White House as the top commander in Afghanistan after he disagreed publicly with the strategy and his staff made unkind remarks about senior officials in a published story.
Retired Army Lt. Gen. Michael T. Flynn, a close adviser to Mr. Trump, said he was fired by Mr. Obama as director of the Defense Intelligence Agency because he pushed for identifying the terrorist threat as radical Islam and for wanting to do more about it. Mr. Obama refuses to link Islam the religion with terrorism.
Mr. Flynn defended Mr. Trump’s “rubble” characterization on “Fox & Friends.”
“He’s absolutely right. There’s a severe disconnect between this White House and frankly the president and our military,” the former intelligence chief said. “I mean, there’s a lot of frustration within the ranks, and there’s a lot of frustration I know in the senior leadership about what we’re not able to do.”
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:45 am to bamarep
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according to former senior U.S. officials speaking to the Washington Post.
Your linked article is basically a rehash of a Washington Post article.
I think we're going to need a verdict as to whether this is fake news.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 8:56 am to Decatur
well direct quotes as opposed to "un-named sources" helps
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:15 am to SlowFlowPro
From the original WaPo article:
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Pretty standard sourcing for a WaPo article like this.
So legit or nah?
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His proposal, crafted with the support of the ambassador and the senior American commander in Iraq, was to hit back inside Iran, said current and former senior U.S. officials, who took part in the debate.
One option was a dead-of-night U.S. strike against an Iranian power plant or oil refinery, said the officials, speaking on the condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive operations.
“You could let them know that we have rockets, too,” one senior U.S. official said of the options forwarded by Mattis to Washington.
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Pretty standard sourcing for a WaPo article like this.
So legit or nah?
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 9:25 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:21 am to Decatur
Yikes. Wapo doesn't have a very good track record with unnamed sources.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:29 am to bamarep
If this is true, then the next time the Iranians send a boat out to harass our navy they will probably be blown out of the water.
And I think that would be a good thing.
And I think that would be a good thing.
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