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re: Obama Asks For $500 Million To Equip Syrian Rebels

Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:38 pm to
Posted by Qwerty
Member since Dec 2010
2114 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:38 pm to
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Why does Obama want to provide guns to those who are clinging to their religion?

It's ok, they're not white.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:40 pm to
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antiwar.com


Sweet mama of all that is holy.....

Who the hell designed that site's layout?

It damn near gave me a seizure.
Posted by Tigerlaff
FIGHTING out of the Carencro Sonic
Member since Jan 2010
20889 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:45 pm to
I just can't believe this is even on the table.

DIDN'T HE WIN BY BEING THE ANTI-BUSH WTF IS HAPPENING????
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:53 pm to
Honestly, if Rex has an issue with the lead in to Iraq and how we went to war back then, then he should have real issues with this. This is crazy. It makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by geauxturbo
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
4178 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 10:54 pm to
Nope, no sense at all. There is clear historical evidence that points to how it can backfire. Rinse and repeat.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 10:56 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 11:06 pm to
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There is clear historical evidence that points to how it will backfire.


FIFY

We are throwing ourselves into the middle of a sectarian conflict in which we gain nothing through the outcome. Absolutely nothing. Maddening.
Posted by wfeliciana
Member since Oct 2013
4504 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 11:16 pm to
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Will one of my liberal brethren please (please) explain what we are attempting to achieve by spending $500 million dollars to arm and train "vetted" opposition groups in Syria. Please?

Rex? Vegas Bengal? Decatur? Anyone?


I hate to generalize about groups but from what I have read seems the very left wing of the Democratic party does not support this. I'm assuming some "middle of the road " Dems do. Frankly from visiting other sites I think a lot of Democrats question this policy.
Posted by SoulGlo
Shinin' Through
Member since Dec 2011
17248 posts
Posted on 6/26/14 at 11:32 pm to
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No. The answer is NO. Would somebody please tell this guy NO?



You're just an obstructionist.
Posted by LSUnation78
Northshore
Member since Aug 2012
12085 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 12:58 am to
$500 Million to arm ISIS.

Not a penny for the IRS investigation. Just crying of wasting tax payer money.

It is crystal mother f*cking clear which is the waste of funding.

Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89620 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 6:11 am to
Which ones? The ones who are causing us to evacuate operations in Iraq or the ones that don't exist?
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 7:58 am to
quote:

I hate to generalize about groups but from what I have read seems the very left wing of the Democratic party does not support this. I'm assuming some "middle of the road " Dems do. Frankly from visiting other sites I think a lot of Democrats question this policy.


Thanks for an honest answer. Truly appreciate it.

The meme (for better or worse) from my brethren on the Left side of the aisle is that the Right is the party of war. Well, I have to admit, you are trying to take the title away from us (rhetorically speaking).

This is absolute madness.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:04 am to
quote:

America is arming the ISIS in Syria to overthrow the government


Good grief. Where are some of you getting your news?

quote:

Go to antiwar.com and get caught up.


Oh. Well this explains your answer.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:07 am to
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Decatur


Finally, a liberal when you need one.

What is your understanding of this situation? What are we trying to accomplish in this initiative?


Obama requests $500M for Syria opposition
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:10 am to
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Rex? Vegas Bengal? Decatur? Anyone?


A simple read of the newspaper or any foreign policy analysis will show that the Free Syrian Army is not only different than ISIL, but they have also been fighting them and the Assad regime at the same time.
Posted by dante
Kingwood, TX
Member since Mar 2006
10669 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:10 am to
quote:

quote: U.S. FUNDS FOR MODERATE SYRIAN REBELS REQUESTED FROM CONGRESS
question, I thought there were only 2 types of Muslims, radical fundamentalist and peaceful Muslims. If my assumption is correct then the peaceful Muslims are not involved in the fighting in Syria or Iraq. So, we are either going to equip non-fighters or we are going to equip radicals. Either way those weapons end in the hands of our enemy.

In the future, before we decide to arm any group, I would like our officials to answer this question. Would we arm and train this group if they were trying to implement their cause here in the US?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54231 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:11 am to
quote:

Oh. Well this explains your answer.


From an AP article.

quote:

President Barack Obama is asking Congress for $500 million to train and arm vetted members of the Syrian opposition, as the U.S. grapples for a way to stem a civil war that has also fueled the Al Qaeda inspired insurgency in neighboring Iraq.


LINK

Seems to jive with the OP to me.
Posted by Decatur
Member since Mar 2007
28719 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:13 am to
quote:

What are we trying to accomplish in this initiative?


Do I have to explain right now why supporting moderate elements in the Syrian conflict are in the US interest? I'm getting ready for work right now but I'm sure you can find some literature on it on the net.

If I don't go out of town this weekend, I'll try to get back to you.
Posted by Wolfhound45
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Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:16 am to
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A simple read of the newspaper or any foreign policy analysis will show that the Free Syrian Army is not only different than ISIL, but they have also been fighting them and the Assad regime at the same time.


That is not what the initiative says. It says "vetted" groups. Who are these groups? You are assuming that it is the FSA. I think a quick perusal of Syrian opposition will show you the opposition itself is a very complex situation.

This conflict is drawing itself (roughly) along Ba'athist/Shia and Sunni lines. A sectarian war across (at least) two countries (it is not self contained in Syria - it is manifesting itself in Iraq as well).

This is something I do not want to get involved in.
Posted by Bayou Sam
Istanbul
Member since Aug 2009
5921 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:16 am to
Here you can find information of the theater of war. This map is both Iraq and Syria. The green is the Free Syrian army, the gray is ISIL, and the Kurds are yellow, and so forth.

LINK

Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 6/27/14 at 8:18 am to
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moderate elements


Thanks for your response. I appreciate your forebearance (truly). However, I find it amusing that we consider anyone a moderate in that conflict. Nor do I see what "dog" we have in that fight. However, I would appreciate anything that you would post.

Thanks again.
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