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re: Obama approves killing of civilians in fight vs. ISIL

Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:21 am to
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:21 am to
What's new...since 2002 we're probably the leading killer of non-combatant civilians.
Posted by UL-SabanRival
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:26 am to
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Family that is minding their own business is killed due to collateral damage. Surviving members join the terrorist organization out of rage.

I don't assume that victims of collateral damage are "minding their own business." I'm sure that is sometimes the case, but I'd wager that, far more often, they are either harboring terrorists or are apathetic.

Either way, the all-chick fighter bomb squad idea is solid gold.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:27 am to
republicans sure do love them some war. and surprise surprise, democrats do too when their guy is in charge
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:27 am to
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I shouldn't be amazed at the posts in this thread, but I kinda am.
The blood thirst around here has always been amazing. They've learned nothing over the past 2 decades. I hate to use the word "propaganda" but at some point you have to really wonder why so many posters believe this shite and harbor such hate; especially during a crisis they know so little about. Sad stuff.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:27 am to
it really is a bummer. gotta go git dem mooooslims though!
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:38 am to
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When complaining about drones please remember the alternative is sending in ground troops.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_dilemma
Posted by Jagd Tiger
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Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:43 am to

bombing arabs is such a nice, shiny distraction from your DoJ selling assault weapons to drug cartels and your IRS destroying the lives of anyone who disagrees with you, let alone your importation of terrorists and deadly diseases.


thanks god for the arabs, eh dim-libs!



meanwhile,, our wonderful govt protecting our border??

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This post was edited on 10/2/14 at 10:48 am
Posted by David Lo Pan
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:46 am to
I totally get what you are saying, but these dudes are bad people. They took our one boogeyman (Al Qaeda) and made them their bitch. They've done what Al Qaeda could only hope to accomplish in the past 15 years, and did it in a matter of months.

What we are seeing is pretty fascinating. They have some pretty technically savvy people running their propaganda, using social media as their platform. I mean, LiveLeaks, of ALL places, has begun to filter out videos from ISIS. For LiveLeaks to do that is kind of unprecedented, considering they love them some mexican cartel chainsaw beheadings.

ISIS has been pretty straight forward about what they are wanting to accomplish. And they aren't afraid to show it, either. They don't forget what we've done there...and any action we take - whether it's just leave or continue bombing, is only going to fuel the fire.

So what do we do...pick up shop and leave so they can continue their sacking of villages, raping, killing, and committing genocide? If we do, they vow to grow stronger (which they've shown to do, immediately after we left Iraq) and chances are that they'd try to pull some shite here. Or, do we continue fighting, and create more branches of terrorism? Do we bomb them, and hope to frick that more people (not just the Kurds) rise up and get out of the "I must be ruled" mentality?

It's quite the clusterfrick.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:48 am to
leave them the hell alone and let the UN deal with it
Posted by a want
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:50 am to
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Then what should we do?

Posted by David Lo Pan
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:50 am to
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leave them the hell alone and let the UN deal with it


When I mean we, I mean the world. Well, the world outside of their twisted version of faith.
Posted by AUin02
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:53 am to
Ugh. To fight terrorists we become terrorists in the process.
Posted by monsterballads
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:55 am to
as a country, we'll never learn.
Posted by a want
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:56 am to
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Ugh. To fight terrorists we become terrorists in the process.

What we've done is ensure the fight is taking place somewhere other than on our soil. That's really the goal. This whole "we can win" is for show. Winning is simply not getting a bunch of civilians killed. This is the administration's view (very similar to Bush)
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:57 am to
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Then what should we do?


About what?

Rebels in Syria? You want to bomb them.

Assad? You wanted to bomb him too.

Who the frick do you NOT want to bomb over there? How about we do nothing?
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:57 am to
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When I mean we, I mean the world.
They're bordered by 200 million people who oppose them. No need to keep spreading all that irrational fear you're harboring.
Posted by Blue Velvet
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 10:59 am to
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...pick up shop and leave so they can continue their sacking of villages, raping, killing, and committing genocide?
They're surrounded by 200 million people who oppose them but we are doing the dirty work? Also, let's not pretend that we're doing this because we're altruistic.
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immediately after we left Iraq
Power vacuums; if we haven't learned by now, we never will.
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we continue fighting, and create more branches of terrorism
Great idea.
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Do we bomb them
Under what authority? The last twenty years has proven one thing: we are the bogeyman you should be scared of.
Posted by David Lo Pan
Member since Aug 2014
113 posts
Posted on 10/2/14 at 11:04 am to
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They're bordered by 200 million people who oppose them. No need to keep spreading all that irrational fear you're harboring.


What, exactly have those 200 million people who hate them done so far?

I'm not trying to harbor anything either. This stuff is very interesting to me, and I love to read about it. It's a discussion of what going on over there.

Posted by bhtigerfan
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 11:09 am to
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Blue Velvet
Okay, since you're poo-pooing on everyone's opinions, what do you think we should?
Posted by bamarep
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 10/2/14 at 11:09 am to
Obama STAAAACKED!!

Hadjis FRIIIIIICKED!!
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