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Obama Admits Hacking Nothing New
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:10 pm
It seems to be forgotten, but in a December interview obama admitted that Russia has tried to influence our democracy going back to the Soviet Union and that the emails the russians released weren't that significant. Obama throws cold water on the lefts newest shiny object, russian hacking.
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Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:18 pm to FutureRATeammember
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the emails the russians released weren't that significant.
they weren't back in early October
Posted on 1/8/17 at 7:21 pm to LSUTANGERINE
The interview was in mid december. Keep reaching, I guess it's easier than admitting defeat.
Posted on 1/8/17 at 9:36 pm to FutureRATeammember
But it was her turn! American's should have sacrificed themselves so that she could be the first woman president! It's not fair!
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:08 pm to C
NO ONE HAS DISPUTED THE AUTHENTICITY OF THE LEAKED EMAILS.
The US electorate owes Russia (or whoever) a debt a gratitude for throwing back the curtain on these giant assholes and allowing the US voters to cast an informed vote.
Thank You Putin, for opening our eyes.
MAGA
The US electorate owes Russia (or whoever) a debt a gratitude for throwing back the curtain on these giant assholes and allowing the US voters to cast an informed vote.
Thank You Putin, for opening our eyes.
MAGA
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:28 pm to LSUTANGERINE
If they were significant, what did they show?
Posted on 1/8/17 at 11:36 pm to LSUTANGERINE
Either the content of the emails was true or it was not.
Address that and then we can address who obtained and released them and when.
Demonstrate even a smidgen of honesty in your argument.
Address that and then we can address who obtained and released them and when.
Demonstrate even a smidgen of honesty in your argument.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:47 am to Wolfhound45
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Address that and then we can address who obtained and released them and when.
Dude, no...
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:39 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Que?
I believe I am focusing on the most germane part of the argument unless I am missing something. They can complain all they want about Russian interference. In the end, the words are the words. Address them and we can go from there.
I believe I am focusing on the most germane part of the argument unless I am missing something. They can complain all they want about Russian interference. In the end, the words are the words. Address them and we can go from there.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:41 am to Wolfhound45
There's no reason to wait on the veracity of what they obtained before addressing their actions.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:48 am to DisplacedBuckeye
Not sure I am following you. My concern is that those who accuse Russia of illegally obtaining the e-mails refuse to acknowledge the content of said e-mails (which is the primary issue at hand from my perspective).
Are we even close to the same topic/issue?
Are we even close to the same topic/issue?
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:50 am to Wolfhound45
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Are we even close to the same topic/issue?
We are. My concern is those that push Russia's actions (the primary issue at hand from my perspective) aside because of the content of the emails. It's great that we have these emails, but anyone pretending we shouldn't care about how they were obtained is silly.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:54 am to DisplacedBuckeye
I absolutely am concerned about how they were obtained. However, I refuse to refer to it as "hacking" because it gives a false picture of what occurred (unless they did surreptitiously hack into his computer - something I have not seen). It is my understanding it was a phishing attempt that Mr Podesta fell for. I do notice that 90% (or more) of the dialogue is about hacking and little to nothing is about the content. That, to me, is dishonest.
ETA: This is along the lines of the "Pentagon Papers" in my opinion.
ETA: This is along the lines of the "Pentagon Papers" in my opinion.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 7:55 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:57 am to Wolfhound45
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I absolutely am concerned about how they were obtained.
Fantastic. Spread the word.
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I refuse to refer to it as "hacking"
I never have. It doesn't need to be hacking. That's simply ignorance by those discussing it.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:01 am to Sid in Lakeshore
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Thank You Putin, for opening our eyes.
Ok I get when people joke about Putin being a good guy, I don't get when they genuinely have respect for him.
Putin is a terrible human being, a murderer, and gangster, a thief. Let's all he clear on that. I'm glad we saw the emails, but that doesn't make Putin a good guy and we shouldn't be "thanking" him. Thank WikiLeaks instead.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 8:02 am
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:01 am to DisplacedBuckeye
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We are. My concern is those that push Russia's actions (the primary issue at hand from my perspective) aside because of the content of the emails. It's great that we have these emails, but anyone pretending we shouldn't care about how they were obtained is silly.
This.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:07 am to DisplacedBuckeye
quote:That will have no impact in this echo chamber
Spread the word.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:08 am to Wolfhound45
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That will have no impact in this echo chamber
Sure it will. NT74 is back. We have the numbers.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:09 am to Wolfhound45
quote:As we all should be.
absolutely am concerned about how they were obtained.
quote:Bingo, it's not hacking but a deflection from the content.
I do notice that 90% (or more) of the dialogue is about hacking and little to nothing is about the content. That, to me, is dishonest.
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:09 am to MrCarton
quote:He dresses nicely though. That should count for something.
Putin is a terrible human being, a murderer, and gangster, a thief.
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