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NPR: Free Speech Advocates Wrestle with Censorship
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:25 pm
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THE MOST IRONIC OPENING PARAGRAPH EVER:
so we're worried that Trump is "insensitive" to the 1A b/c of his attacks on speech he didn't like, but we should ALSO be worried about promoting speech that we don't like? WHAT? that paragraph is a paradox for anyone not in a a VERY firm bubble
douche supreme
no no wait
fascist douche supreme
does everyone remember the favorite prog defense of terrorism with the whole "it's not terrorism if it's freedom fighting"? well i think non-progs should take that and run with "it's not hate speech if it's freedom fighting" as a cheeky response to these fascists
THE MOST IRONIC OPENING PARAGRAPH EVER:
quote:
Free speech advocates see President-elect Trumps's testy relationship with the media and his middle-of-the-night tweets reacting to critics as evidence that he is — at best — insensitive to the First Amendment. And they say one recent controversy, the decision by Simon & Schuster to publish a book by social media provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, has grown out of an atmosphere that encourages hate speech.
so we're worried that Trump is "insensitive" to the 1A b/c of his attacks on speech he didn't like, but we should ALSO be worried about promoting speech that we don't like? WHAT? that paragraph is a paradox for anyone not in a a VERY firm bubble
quote:
"Nobody in the protest is saying 'you have no right to be published,'" he says. "'You have no right, Simon & Schuster, to publish this guy, and this guy, you have no right to be published' — nobody's saying that. What they're saying is, 'we're shocked and we're outraged that you would stoop so low to make a buck as to publish this purveyor of vile hate speech.'"
quote:
Johnson is highly critical of a statement issued by the National Coalition Against Censorship on behalf of a number of industry groups representing publishers, authors and booksellers. The NCAC says anyone has a right to call for a boycott of Simon & Schuster — but that such a protest will have a "chilling effect" on publishing.
...
"This is not about censoring right wing voices," he says. "This is about combating hate speech and its entry into the mainstream."
douche supreme
no no wait
fascist douche supreme
does everyone remember the favorite prog defense of terrorism with the whole "it's not terrorism if it's freedom fighting"? well i think non-progs should take that and run with "it's not hate speech if it's freedom fighting" as a cheeky response to these fascists
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Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
I read the letter the other day that they sent to the publishing company. The entire note is a contradiction. It's bizarre. The sad thing is the letter is from hundreds of teachers.
They begin the note by saying milo shouldn't be published and end it by saying anyone who claims they are for censorship are lying. I thought the right was nuts the last 8 years. The left is changing the "loony" game.
They begin the note by saying milo shouldn't be published and end it by saying anyone who claims they are for censorship are lying. I thought the right was nuts the last 8 years. The left is changing the "loony" game.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:30 pm to SlowFlowPro
The Left is shameless. They want to control speech (set the standard for what is acceptable), and shut down speech they disagree with.
They have zero integrity. They're liars.
My tax dollars should not support NPR. They're far, far Left and have been for many years. Let Soros fund them entirely.
They have zero integrity. They're liars.
My tax dollars should not support NPR. They're far, far Left and have been for many years. Let Soros fund them entirely.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:31 pm to FutureRATeammember
when i was a liberal, one of the first things that made me start to get scared of liberalism was this censorship shite
it's a combination of laziness, not being prepared to offer individual insight (when a proliferated argument hasn't made it to them yet), and that nasty authoritarian streak in tribes
it's a combination of laziness, not being prepared to offer individual insight (when a proliferated argument hasn't made it to them yet), and that nasty authoritarian streak in tribes
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:31 pm to FutureRATeammember
quote:bull. shite.
Nobody in the protest is saying 'you have no right to be published,'" he says. "'You have no right, Simon & Schuster, to publish this guy, and this guy, you have no right to be published' — nobody's saying that.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
wait
let me just get this out there
i'm awaiting for the proliferated message of "why do you hate the free market?" as the poster pats themselves on the back for the drive by gotcha
let me just get this out there
i'm awaiting for the proliferated message of "why do you hate the free market?" as the poster pats themselves on the back for the drive by gotcha
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:32 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
when i was a liberal, one of the first things that made me start to get scared of liberalism was this censorship shite
Same. The problem with remaining a Liberal, I realized, is that actual classical liberalism has no answer to the Leftists.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
It is exactly about laziness. You see the same thing in some parents who'd rather the government outright ban things than have to watch their kids and make sure they don't listen to or view age-inappropriate things.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:36 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
And they say one recent controversy, the decision by Simon & Schuster to publish a book by social media provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, has grown out of an atmosphere that encourages hate speech.
I can't wait for Milo"s visit to UC Berkeley next month.
I want to see the lefties try to stop Milo from speaking on the campus where The Free Speech Movement began.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 3:39 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:37 pm to SCLibertarian
it appears to me that Christian bakers need to just start telling gay couples "i believe you'd use this cake for hate speech" to get out of baking the cake. it's not like progs hold their own "free market decisions" to any sort of standard
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:37 pm to SlowFlowPro
You wouldn't know it by my post history, but I actually voted for Obama twice. But I've really become worrued about what's going in with the let. This mindless cheerleading for causes that I see as dangerous; silencing dissent, promoting only the lefts view of things as acceptable and everything else as hate, and the sharp rise of identity politics is toxic for this country's future. Trump is a buffoon, but he's not an ideologue determined to legislate all aspects of our lives.
The US government was formed to serve, not rule.
The US government was formed to serve, not rule.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 3:38 pm to DawgfaninCa
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:04 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
this happened at UCLA
Thanks to this I have been sucked into watching SJW vs Logic videos for the past hour.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:05 pm to MFn GIMP
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:08 pm to MFn GIMP
They would have to be very short videos, right? 
Posted on 1/15/17 at 4:26 pm to SlowFlowPro
I heard the broadcast piece on this topic.
Again. These "journalists" don't realize they have destroyed their legitimacy
Again. These "journalists" don't realize they have destroyed their legitimacy
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Let me get this straight. They are not aginst free speech but they want to complain about a company that won't stop someones free speech. Interesting.
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:13 pm to SlowFlowPro
Free speech does not mean you have the right to say uncomfortable or offensive things. Huge debate about this earlier on Don Lemon's show. You guys should tune in.
CNN and Rolling Stone have great coverage on this.
CNN and Rolling Stone have great coverage on this.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 5:27 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:19 pm to goofball
quote:
Free speech does not mean you have the right to say uncomfortable or offensive things.
It absolutely does. The 1st Amendment doesn't exist so we can talk about the weather. It exists because the definitions of uncomfortable and offensive speech are completely relative. And no one is a better arbiter of what I can say and listen to than myself.
This post was edited on 1/15/17 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 1/15/17 at 5:35 pm to goofball
quote:lolwut?
Free speech does not mean you have the right to say uncomfortable or offensive things.
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