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Now and in the immediate future Audio will be difficult to verify

Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:27 pm
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:27 pm
Adobe has created what is essentially comparable to photoshop for voice.

By imputing a few hundred words of a persons recorded voice you can now make recordings that are indistinguishable from the real speaker.

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Posted by WW
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:34 pm to
Explains the Kerry audio now, thanks.
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:36 pm to
There are some things that shouldn't be created. This is one of those things
Posted by Aristo
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:50 pm to
Posted by Michael Stein
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:54 pm to
This will be used and abused by all sorts of bad people.

Cool technology, but not thrilled this exists now.
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
20231 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 7:55 pm to
Awesome. love it.
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15725 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:39 pm to
quote:

Adobe has created what is essentially comparable to photoshop for voice.

By imputing a few hundred words of a persons recorded voice you can now make recordings that are indistinguishable from the real speaker.


Between this and what ILM was able to do in Rogue One, who knows what audio/video will be real anymore? It's only a matter of time before video becomes available to the masses.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
67964 posts
Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:44 pm to
Believe nothing that you hear and only half of what you see

E.A. Poe
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
One State Solution
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:45 pm to
Yikes

I'm glad I'll never be important enough for this to be a problem
Posted by Andrew Rowan
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 9:46 pm to
quote:

Between this and what ILM was able to do in Rogue One, who knows what audio/video will be real anymore


It doesn't matter, this is all a simulation anyway
Posted by Feelthebarn
Lower Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:12 pm to
There will be ways to verify it or not I bet. Technology works both ways
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 1/2/17 at 10:49 pm to
Would be awesome for family gatherings to add ancestors we miss.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 6:26 am to
Inadmissible in court.

And sounds straight out of the Terminator movies.
Posted by TigerTattle
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 6:40 am to
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Inadmissible in court


But what about the press? Lives and careers can be ruined by vindictive people. I just don't see any benefit to this technology, at least not enough to counterbalance the harm it can do.
Posted by AjaxFury
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 6:56 am to
quote:

just don't see any benefit to this technology, at least not enough to counterbalance the harm it can do.


We aren't in disagreement. Simply pointing out the only 'pro' I can think of, even though it's a 'con' when u need that for true justice
Posted by TigerTattle
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 7:03 am to

Sorry, didn't mean to imply disagreement. Your post about legalities made me think.
Posted by Willie Stroker
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/3/17 at 7:26 am to
quote:

But what about the press? Lives and careers can be ruined by vindictive people. I just don't see any benefit to this technology, at least not enough to counterbalance the harm it can do.



This technology only raises the standard of proof. Photoshopped pictures didn't suddenly cause people to lose their careers and lives did it?

You can probably Google "Hillary Clinton nude" (not recommended) and see photo evidence of her entangled in all sorts of naked shenanigans. Obama's birth certificate didn't suddenly read "Kenya", did it?

The people more likely to lose their careers are the ones who produce fake evidence. How relevant are Brian Williams and Dan Rather now?

Knowing this technology exists, if a recording is suddenly "found" of Ted Cruz's dad saying "I killed JFK", how likely is it that it will be accepted as proof?
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 7:31 am
Posted by TX Tiger
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Member since Jan 2004
35634 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Now and in the immediate future Audio will be difficult to verify
Adobe has created what is essentially comparable to photoshop for voice.
Yes, I'm sure this is brand new technology.

Good thing they didn't have this 15 years ago and fake things like telephone calls from airplanes.

Whew, huh?
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21912 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:17 am to
quote:

Yes, I'm sure this is brand new technology. Good thing they didn't have this 15 years ago and fake things like telephone calls from airplanes. Whew, huh?


If you really understood the computer industry you would know that computers did not have the processing power to do this in 2001.

in 2001 the fastest computer system in the world was ASCI White. It was distributed memory processing system made of IBM SP Power 3, which took up a whole datacenter which clocked in at a Whopping 7TFLOPS at a cost of over 110 million
These types of systems work well for Computational Fluid Dynamics problems that run for days. week, and months but do not work well for codes that cant take advantage of being broken up in 3d grids and distributed to the processors and memory of 100s to 1000s of different compute nodes.


In 2017 a simple desktop PC can be built for around 15k that does 7TFLOPS utilizing something as simple as Tesla Video cards.


That doesn't mean that Governments have not had or been able to use this type of technology for the last 8 or 9 years, but they didn't have it in 2001.

BTW: A little background. I was the System architect for 2 top ten systems back in 2003 and 2004. I wont be any more specific on those two systems because I'd prefer not to identify myself.
This post was edited on 1/3/17 at 10:26 am
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35406 posts
Posted on 1/3/17 at 10:25 am to
quote:

I just don't see any benefit to this technology
There are a few ISIS websites that can use some updates. Tell them to love capitalism in Bin Laden's voice.
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