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Not trolling: does the Muslim ban hurt the fight against isis?

Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:26 pm
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:26 pm
Hear me out; does the ban not make recruiting people into Isis way easier? Can the recruiters of isis not point to the ban and just say "they don't want you so fight with us" Also shouldn't we work to get along with countries like Iran to stop the problem? It's hard to get along with them when we are even banned from entering their country. I just feel like the move is a bit counter intuitive to the movement. Trust me, if people really want to hurt the country bad enough, they will find a way to do it and I just think that this ban is honestly just giving them more motivation to do it and giving us less allies to fight against it with. I assume I will be down voted for saying something even remotely against the ban but I do hope to find some serious replies in here.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38786 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:27 pm to
lost me at Muslim ban
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Not trolling: does the Muslim ban hurt the fight against isis?


Put a worm on that shiny hook.

Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:28 pm to
No.

Only ensures that we predominately fight isis there and not here.
Posted by CoachChappy
Member since May 2013
32547 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:28 pm to
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does the ban not make recruiting people into Isis way easier?

No see the white nationalist thread from yesterday. If you apply that logic to anything else it sounds retarded.
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64661 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:28 pm to
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lost on Muslim ban
Posted by DallasTiger11
Los Angeles
Member since Mar 2004
11809 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:28 pm to
You leftists continuing to lie by calling it a "Muslim ban" hurts us way more than any of the actual text in the EO.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67488 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:29 pm to
According to Congressional cucks & the media....yes

To everyone else with a brain....no
Posted by Lsuchs
Member since Apr 2013
8073 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:29 pm to
Recruiting people in the Middle East? Maybe

Recruiting people inside the US? No

A couple hundred thousand refugees on US soil is probably the best scenario possible if you are recruiting people to harm US citizens
This post was edited on 1/31/17 at 12:30 pm
Posted by GIbson05
Member since Feb 2009
4292 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:29 pm to
They hated us before the TRAVEL ban..

They're going to hate us after the TRAVEL ban..

They just hate us. simply as that.

No "excepting" them is going to change that.
Posted by chadau79
Daphne, AL
Member since Sep 2009
3413 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:29 pm to
Are you asking if they will want to murder all infidels even more than before?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

You leftists continuing to lie by calling it a "Muslim ban" hurts us way more than any of the actual text in the EO.
True, but that's probably how they'll frame it for propaganda in those places.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26964 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:30 pm to
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but I do hope to find some serious replies in here.


Then do some research. Look at what ISIS has already done in its history, look at the large numbers of young people recruited from countries like France and Britain that have basically had open borders, then ask yourself if our little ban on a very few Muslim nations is really going to move that needle.
Posted by Skyler97
Member since Mar 2014
4482 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:30 pm to
Let's be honest it is a Muslim ban lol. One of the main causes of the ban was the Orlando shooting which was commited a Muslim that wasn't a refugee. Irregardless let's just call it a refuge ban.
Posted by Haughton99
Haughton
Member since Feb 2009
6124 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

ou leftists continuing to lie by calling it a "Muslim ban" hurts us way more than any of the actual text in the EO.


Maybe because Candidate Trump called it a Muslim Ban when he promised to do it when running for President.
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:32 pm to
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True, but that's probably how they'll frame it for propaganda in those places.

Thanks to the MSM, the Democrats, and Hollywood, the framing is already done.


Posted by white beans
Member since Sep 2009
5637 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

They hated us before the TRAVEL ban..

They're going to hate us after the TRAVEL ban..

They just hate us. simply as that.

No "excepting" them is going to change that.


Might as well draw as many out as we can. Go ahead and out their supporters here as well.

Can't eradicate what you can't see
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
63028 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:33 pm to
So the logic here is that it is better to let people in who are already on the fence about whether they want to kill us or not?
Posted by Xenophon
Aspen
Member since Feb 2006
40923 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:34 pm to
I mean, they flock to Isis anyway..
Posted by KaiserSoze99
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 1/31/17 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Maybe because Candidate Trump called it a Muslim Ban when he promised to do it when running for President.

Why is he not getting credit for backing off the "Muslim Ban" rhetoric?

Because it scores political points for democrats, despite making us more vulnerable
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