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Northern Ireland in the '70s: Why did the Irish eat their own?
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:09 am
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:09 am
They were all Christians. What was the point of the protestants exerting dominance over the Catholics? I never could wrap my head around that... 
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Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:14 am to tigerpawl
The Protestant majority enclave that existed in 6 counties did not want to be part of a country that would have been 98% Catholic.
They feared they would be discriminated against and would be powerless regarding influence.
They feared they would be discriminated against and would be powerless regarding influence.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:15 am to tigerpawl
Potato
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:34 am to LuckyTiger
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They feared they would be discriminated against and would be powerless regarding influence, and treated the way they treated the Catholics
FIFY
Posted on 5/16/17 at 7:36 am to tigerpawl
FTR the ones in N. Ireland are from Scotland, brought in to bolster Britain's conquest of Ireland.
I'm of Irish descent, married to a Scots-Irish, no big deal.
But I actually have a letter from 19th century Irish relatives to my ancestors here in the US detailing the seizure of their property by the Brits.
I'm of Irish descent, married to a Scots-Irish, no big deal.
But I actually have a letter from 19th century Irish relatives to my ancestors here in the US detailing the seizure of their property by the Brits.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 8:30 am to tigerpawl
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They were all Christians. What was the point of the protestants exerting dominance over the Catholics?
It's not about religion. It's never been about religion. It just happens to cut along that line and it's easier to report it as a Protestant vs Catholic conflict.
In reality it comes down to those who want an united Ireland vs those who chose to be part of and ruled by the UK.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 8:35 am to tigerpawl
Really?
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:12 am to Jay Quest
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In reality it comes down to those who want an united Ireland vs those who chose to be part of and ruled by the UK.
And because of Mr. Cromwell.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:14 am to tigerpawl
Religon is the excuse used to report on the story. There was a faction of the IRA made up of protestants. Ireland should be an independant nation without strings attatched.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:15 am to Jay Quest
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It's not about religion. It's never been about religion. It just happens to cut along that line and it's easier to report it as a Protestant vs Catholic conflict.
In reality it comes down to those who want an united Ireland vs those who chose to be part of and ruled by the UK.
It really comes down to ethno-centrism and nationalism more than anything else.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:17 am to tigerpawl
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They were all Christians. What was the point of the protestants exerting dominance over the Catholics?
Bloody Mary burned hundreds of Protestants alive.
So quite an improvement by the 1970s.
Also just what Dean Wormer (the same actor) said in The Outlaw Josey Wales: "A man like Wales lives by the feud."
So too the Irish.
This post was edited on 5/16/17 at 9:27 am
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:45 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Bloody Mary burned hundreds of Protestants alive.
Which has nothing to do with Ireland.
No one can deny the treatment of Irish Catholics by Britain and its occupying forces.
Catholics were dispossessed of their homes, were not allowed to be educated(though the Church got around that) were not allowed to vote, or a whole lot of other things.
The Protestants in Ireland are descendant of those brought over from Scotland and England.
This isn't a feud for feud's sake, it's about a nation that was invaded, then forced to accept the artificial boundaries placed on it by the invading force. Though I think both sides have worn themselves out with the fighting, and I do think that one day Ireland will be peacefully re-united.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:45 am to tigerpawl
Because the Orangeists see Catholics as inferiors.
C.f.: the KKK and Catholics in the US
C.f.: the KKK and Catholics in the US
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:46 am to tigerpawl
Diversity.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:48 am to WhiskeyPapa
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Bloody Mary burned hundreds of Protestants alive.
And Elizabeth's reign of terror makes Mary's look mild by comparison. Read a fricking book.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:49 am to tigerpawl
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Northern Ireland in the '70s: Why did the Irish eat their own?
Frosted Lucky Charms.
Posted on 5/16/17 at 9:49 am to Numberwang
To provide more fire to the Celtic v Rangers rivalry?
Posted on 5/16/17 at 10:56 am to zachary77
Because in 1916, the Forces of the Crown, to take the
Orange, White and Green bombarded Dublin Town.
They hanged young Kevin Barry high
Just a lad of eighteen years
Cork City's flames lit up in the sky
But our brave lads new no fear
The Cork brigade with hand-grenades
In ambush wait and lay, and
The black and tans, like lightening ran
From the Rifles of the IRA!
Orange, White and Green bombarded Dublin Town.
They hanged young Kevin Barry high
Just a lad of eighteen years
Cork City's flames lit up in the sky
But our brave lads new no fear
The Cork brigade with hand-grenades
In ambush wait and lay, and
The black and tans, like lightening ran
From the Rifles of the IRA!
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