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NOAA Whistleblower: How world leaders were duped over manipulated AGW data

Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:25 am
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:25 am
Daily Mail

Uh oh
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But the whistleblower, Dr John Bates, a top NOAA scientist with an impeccable reputation, has shown The Mail on Sunday irrefutable evidence that the paper was based on misleading, ‘unverified’ data.

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Both datasets were flawed. This newspaper has learnt that NOAA has now decided that the sea dataset will have to be replaced and substantially revised just 18 months after it was issued, because it used unreliable methods which overstated the speed of warming. The revised data will show both lower temperatures and a slower rate in the recent warming trend.

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Its key error was an upwards ‘adjustment’ of readings from fixed and floating buoys, which are generally reliable, to bring them into line with readings from a much more doubtful source – water taken in by ships. This, Dr Bates explained, has long been known to be questionable: ships are themselves sources of heat.

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Dr Bates said: ‘They had good data from buoys. And they threw it out and “corrected” it by using the bad data from ships. You never change good data to agree with bad, but that’s what they did – so as to make it look as if the sea was warmer.’

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Moreover, the GHCN software was afflicted by serious bugs. They caused it to become so ‘unstable’ that every time the raw temperature readings were run through the computer, it gave different results.

This guy was a 40 year employee, and was there when AGW was first proposed. And hes seen enough. Anyone that believes in man-made global warming at this point, is either on the take, or incapable of critical thought

Its all made up data sets. Almost every bit of it


Posted by mulletproof
Shambala
Member since Apr 2013
4672 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:35 am to
I only had to see Al Gore involved to know it was made up bullshite. Thanks for the info.
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5186 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 3:47 am to
"but 99% of the scientists..."
This post was edited on 2/6/17 at 3:48 am
Posted by TiptonInSC
Aiken, SC
Member since Dec 2012
18910 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:32 am to
But muh global warming...I meant muh climate change
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:47 am to
I'm about to head to the natural history museum in London, anything you morons want me to ask them since you won't actually persue any real research on this issue on your own?
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:52 am to
Ask if they still have loony bins in London, and if there's a spot open for you.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:54 am to
lol I was in Iceland while a guy sat there and told me they can all visibly see climate change affecting how they fish and how mild the winters are right now. Half of you sit there and say "WELL DUH WE KNOW ITS HAPPENING BUT HUMANS ARENT TO BLAME LOL!!1", and I say actually a lot of you retards think the earth isn't warming. Then one of you will say "NO WE ALL KNOW ITS WARMING RIGHT GUYS??!1!" (Nervous laughter).

Then you post this stuff and confirm how stupid you are.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:55 am to
Aww you've never left the states lol
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 4:56 am to
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anything you morons want me to ask them since you won't actually persue any real research on this issue on your own?



How do you go about doing that? Maybe take some time to pursue a library though, might be in your best interest.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:07 am to
Pursue sorry
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:08 am to
Ignore the issue, anything to red herring right
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:14 am to
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Ignore the issue, anything to red herring right


Naw, I just think it's funny that you call people morons.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:16 am to
Naw
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:17 am to
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I was in Iceland while a guy sat there and told me they can all visibly see climate change affecting how they fish and how mild the winters are right now

Is this your definition of doing your own research?
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:18 am to
I just told you I'd ask the climate scientist there anything you want. Now quit being dense and tell me your question.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:21 am to
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told you I'd ask the climate scientist there anything you want. Now quit being dense and tell me your question.

My only post in this thread was to ask about your "research" assertion. I said nothing of having a question I needed you to ask
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54207 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:22 am to
I'll play. Ask him if all this information is 100% accurate without any doubt, you know, like there was no doubt the Falcons were going to win based on three quarters of football.
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:23 am to
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like there was no doubt the Falcons were going to win based on three quarters of football.


Is this what you consider science
Posted by olddawg26
Member since Jan 2013
24584 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:23 am to
You literally won't ask any questions to people that might have a good answer and that's an issue
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/6/17 at 5:25 am to
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You literally won't ask any questions to people that might have a good answer and that's an issue

I didn't say that but you're dodging well.

You aren't the only possible vehicle for asking questions. Just sayin.

So. Do you plan to answer my question?

Oh. And I'll ask another. Do you understand why talking to those fisherman doesn't really qualify a evidence?
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