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re: NH parent arrested for protesting graphic sex content in school assignment

Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:28 am to
Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:28 am to
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That's getting pretty close to rape.


not legitimate rape.

what an awful writer, to boot.
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:29 am to
Didn't you heard? Freedom of speech means you can go and do whatever you want at public meetings. Whoever can yell the loudest gets the floor.

Posted by McLemore
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 11:40 am to
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Didn't you heard? Freedom of speech means you can go and do whatever you want at public meetings. Whoever can yell the loudest gets the floor.


isn't time for you to get banned again? This really isn't about "freedom of speech." it's about a gestapo school system generally that thinks they can do whatever they want without dissent.

And, the bigger concern to me is that that awful author would be even recommended reading, and even sans the sexual stuff.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:49 pm to
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Pretty much describes the liberal no tolerance attitude.



Just a background note, NH voted for Obama 52-46 in 2012, but Gilford voted Romney 53-46. It's a wealthy small resort town and does not have a history of political crap going on. Half of my friends from high school were from there because back then they did not have their own high school. It's a perfectly normal town and a great place to live. Once the summer tourists start arriving on Memorial Day weekend, nobody up here will be talking about this any more - even though others might be. The guy got the policy change he wanted, and I expect the charge against him may quietly be dropped.

As for the book and how it got to be in the Gilford curriculum, the author is a NH writer and she went to Gilford High School in 2007 and discussed the book with students back then before the book was even released to the general public. It has been read by classes there ever since. The book was a NY Times #1 best seller, as was another of her books. Whether it makes sense or not, NH authors are often granted preference on reading lists at schools throughout the state. The theory is that it encourages students to read with more interest when the author shows up now and then to discuss the book in person, as they often do.

Posted by BigJim
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:54 pm to
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Just a background note, NH voted for Obama 52-46 in 2012, but Gilford voted Romney 53-46. It's a wealthy small resort town and does not have a history of political crap going on. Half of my friends from high school were from there because back then they did not have their own high school. It's a perfectly normal town and a great place to live. Once the summer tourists start arriving on Memorial Day weekend, nobody up here will be talking about this any more - even though others might be. The guy got the policy change he wanted, and I expect the charge against him may quietly be dropped.

As for the book and how it got to be in the Gilford curriculum, the author is a NH writer and she went to Gilford High School in 2007 and discussed the book with students back then before the book was even released to the general public. It has been read by classes there ever since. The book was a NY Times #1 best seller, as was another of her books. Whether it makes sense or not, NH authors are often granted preference on reading lists at schools throughout the state. The theory is that it encourages students to read with more interest when the author shows up now and then to discuss the book in person, as they often do.


What!?!?!! Useful context has no place in these stories!!!!!

Posted by Erin Go Bragh
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 12:58 pm to
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Whether it makes sense or not, NH authors are often granted preference on reading lists at schools throughout the state.

It doesn't make sense if locale of birth is considered and not content.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 12:59 pm
Posted by ASTL
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Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:03 pm to
I am contacting the Tulsa area school board later.

David Duke has written some books and stuff. Maybe he can go back home for a few days and go to the schools and generate some interests in his books !!!

Yes! I have Louis Farrakhan lined up as well for the schools in the Bronx.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 1:06 pm
Posted by Tony Tiger89
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:16 pm to
There goes Spidy spewing his DOUCHE juice all over another thread!!!!

Now where is REXY, time to come clean up the DOUCHE juice!!!
Posted by magildachunks
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:20 pm to
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Tony Tiger89



You sound pleasant.
Posted by Tony Tiger89
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:23 pm to
VERY!!!!!!
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:23 pm to
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You sound pleasant.




Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:25 pm to
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This post was edited on 8/1/14 at 10:03 pm
Posted by UGATiger26
Jacksonville, FL
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:31 pm to
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As for the book and how it got to be in the Gilford curriculum, the author is a NH writer and she went to Gilford High School in 2007 and discussed the book with students back then before the book was even released to the general public. It has been read by classes there ever since. The book was a NY Times #1 best seller, as was another of her books. Whether it makes sense or not, NH authors are often granted preference on reading lists at schools throughout the state. The theory is that it encourages students to read with more interest when the author shows up now and then to discuss the book in person, as they often do.


It's good to know this context, but I would still have major issues concerning the content of the book. It seems to have been a really rash decision to approve it for 8th or 9th graders. To me, it is not fitting for 13 and 14-year olds. 17-18 perhaps.
This post was edited on 5/9/14 at 1:32 pm
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:36 pm to
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It's good to know this context, but I would still have major issues concerning the content of the book.


The content of the book is what is important. The local angle excuses nothing.
Posted by ASTL
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
Rex hasn't even posted in this thread...
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:37 pm to
I am not sure how these meetings are run, but what happens if what you are trying to say takes longer than 2 minutes? Why 2 minutes instead of 5? Are you allowed to ask the board questions, and do they typically answer, or just wait another 20 seconds until your time is up and move on to the next thing?
Posted by Negative Nomad
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:45 pm to
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Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:46 pm to
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I am not sure how these meetings are run, but what happens if what you are trying to say takes longer than 2 minutes? Why 2 minutes instead of 5? Are you allowed to ask the board questions, and do they typically answer, or just wait another 20 seconds until your time is up and move on to the next thing?





If they are like other typical board meetings of this type, the only time they EVER hold you to a strict time limit is if you are saying something they don't like or opposing something they want to do or have done.
Posted by Hammertime
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:48 pm to
Why isn't the limit 10 seconds then? I can understand if the guy was out of line, being repetitive, and disruptive to everyone there, but he definitely wasn't doing any of that. The school board officials just got uncomfortable at the criticism, didn't want to answer to anything, and wanted their problems taken care of by someone else because they couldn't do it themselves.
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 5/9/14 at 1:48 pm to
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It's good to know this context, but I would still have major issues concerning the content of the book.


I pretty much avoided commenting on the content of the book because I think there is an argument for both sides.

The purpose of providing context was in response to the national publicity it has brought to my small NH county. Some websites have made the town sound like both a liberal bastion (due to the quoted passage in curriculum literature) and a nazi storm trooper site (due to the cop arresting and handcuffing the guy) at the same time. Liberals and libertarians are mad about the arrest - conservatives are mad about the book. Publicity-wise, Gilford looks bad either way.

The incident was a one-off incident that took place in a generally politically conservative town, but hardly a home to militias and religious zealots. I know the town, and many of its residents. It's a perfectly normal New Hampshire community that is friendly and receptive to both residents and the steady stream of tourists that visit every year. It's police force has never been seen as heavyhanded. Sometimes shite happens, and this time it happened in Gilford. Despite the national turmoil, the townspeople have simply flushed and moved on with their lives, lesson learned on all sides.
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