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Next Steps after Ferguson?

Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:43 am
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:43 am
Just thought a list of potential actions might be nice to try and compile:

Local
-Get more black police officers. No excuses about lack of interest.
-Mayor should resign. Probably didn't even do anything specifically wrong. But unless he is particularly supported by the black community, it would probably help the town move forward. That said, I don't know the election cycle. If he just got elected OR elections are next year, that may not make sense.

Nationally
-Provide funding for more cameras. Everyone seems to agree on that.
-Reduce transfer of military hardware to police. I personally disagree with this one; but I am trying to make a comprehensive list.
-Improve data collection on officer involved shootings. This is an obvious one. More data = more informed debated and better policies. Too much rumor and not enough facts. It should include officer use of force and when police are attacked.
-Stop War on Drugs. Again, for comprehensiveness sake.


What other ideas?
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:49 am to
Hopefully, they will burn south Chicago. I would consider that progress.
Posted by FenrirTheBeard
NOLA
Member since Jun 2012
6426 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:50 am to
Burn this hitch to the ground
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:50 am to
So fire some of the white officers in Ferguson because they are white?

This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 10:52 am
Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
Member since Nov 2011
30876 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:51 am to
Charge all the "witnesses" that lied to the grand jury.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54202 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:51 am to
New buildings built with fire retardant materials.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18300 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:53 am to
hmmm....hows about getting the black community to stop shitting in their own bed? just for starters.....
Posted by Road Tiger
SW Landmass
Member since Oct 2014
834 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:53 am to
Pull police force out of neighborhoods that have a problem with the police being there in the first place and let them "work it out"
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:55 am to
quote:

So fire some of the white officers in Ferguson because they are white?


Yes, that is exactly what I am saying. Fire all the white people and just fill them with random black people. That is the essence of my idea.



No, obviously not. But turnover happens. Probably will happen a bit quicker than normal for this department.

Also, probably not a bad idea to go ahead and add a few extra positions anyway. It's not like they won't need them.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 10:57 am to
quote:

hmmm....hows about getting the black community to stop shitting in their own bed? just for starters....


Would you do that through city ordinance or congressional action?

That's not really a step. That's a goal. How do we get there is the hard question.
Posted by canyon
Member since Dec 2003
18300 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:03 am to
Neither. Why place more gov't on them when they clearly don't understand what the current gov't system provides? Noooooo, you have to do it with education. The elders need to step in and make a stand within the community to change from top down.

And I know there is no panacea....wishful thinking...
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:09 am to
quote:

let them "work it out"

You could sell tix to this and I want the alcohol concessions
Posted by tigers102886
Member since May 2008
1227 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:22 am to
quote:

Local
-Get more black police officers. No excuses about lack of interest.


How does one go about accomplishing this goal?

If you don't have enough black applicants that meet the qualifications, how do you get more black police officers? Do you lower the standards?
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64587 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:26 am to
-Mayor should resign. Probably didn't even do anything specifically wrong. But unless he is particularly supported by the black community, it would probably help the town move forward.

quote:

the black community


Was told there was none.
Posted by Wtodd
Tampa, FL
Member since Oct 2013
67482 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

How does one go about accomplishing this goal?

If you don't have enough black applicants that meet the qualifications, how do you get more black police officers? Do you lower the standards?
Irrelevant.....the goal isn't to accomplish anything but to have something to bitch about and be able to claim victimhood.
This post was edited on 11/26/14 at 11:34 am
Posted by EvrybodysAllAmerican
Member since Apr 2013
11142 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:34 am to
quote:

What other ideas?


Put a muzzle on Al Sharpton.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
28791 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:43 am to
quote:

-Stop War on Drugs. Again, for comprehensiveness sake.
That's you all you had to post. The rest is drivel.
Posted by BigJim
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2010
14478 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:45 am to
quote:

How does one go about accomplishing this goal?

If you don't have enough black applicants that meet the qualifications, how do you get more black police officers? Do you lower the standards?


What does a coach do if he can't get enough offensive linemen? Does he lower his standards? Not and keep his job for long. He recruits. I think if they made a concerted effort they could get some additional black candidates. A few extra recruits, every year, starts to add up. No, not an instantaneous fix, but better later than never.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57090 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:47 am to
quote:

-Get more black police officers.
Why is this necessary? The implication is that white officers are unable to do the job because of the color of their skin. That's an entirely bigoted position.
Posted by rintintin
Life is Life
Member since Nov 2008
16157 posts
Posted on 11/26/14 at 11:52 am to
quote:

rrelevant.....the goal isn't to accomplish anything but to have something to bitch about and be able to claim victimhood. 


This is really the issue.

Although I agree with much that is proposed in the OP as far as increasing police accountability and supervision, the people who have instigated this whole thing have no end goal. They want chaos, and they thrive on victimization. Nothing will change that.
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