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re: New YouGov Desantis vs Trump poll

Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:49 am to
Posted by SaintsTiger
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:49 am to
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The Nov. 9-11 online poll of 1,500 Americans, conducted in the three days after Tuesday’s midterm elections, included 413 self-identified Republicans and GOP leaners. The overall sample had a 3% margin of error.


Why do they think 1,500 people is a representative sample for polls. Literally hundreds of millions of voters in the States.

They must know better and only do this to mislead people.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:50 am to
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The only way to hope to change the system is getting the right people elected in those states but they want to continue to double down on running MAGA whack jobs and wonder why the get the same result.


Never undersetimate Trump's ability to frick things up

I won't blame Michigan on Trump. The good candidate was DQ'd for some reason and the Trumpkin was all that was left.
Posted by frogtown
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 9:54 am to
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They must know better and only do this to mislead people.


No one is misleading you. 9-12 months from now you will know for sure.

Trump is not as popular as you think he is.

DeSantis will be the guy for 2024.

Posted by Deplorableinohio
Member since Dec 2018
5652 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 10:00 am to
Republicans will not win. Period. Even if Trump is out of the way, the republican nominee will be racist, misogynistic, sexist, homophobic, white supremacist (even if it’s Tim Scott), neo-Nazi. Hell, all of those adjectives applied to Nixon, Reagan, GHWB, dole, McCain, Romney, trump, and Trump. That’s pretty much my whole adult life. I don’t recall any of it with ford. He was just a stumbling, bumbling, idiot.

Demorat Mass Media will help. Mail in ballots and ballot harvesting in swing states make those states unwinnable.

Just heard interview this morning, msm talking point, desantis squeaked by 4 years ago. He changed election laws in Florida to suppress the votes. 63% turnout in 2018, only 53% this year. Desantis created an UN level playing field in Florida.

Do you get it yet, or do I need to write this out in crayon for you?
Posted by 87PurpleandGold
Arkansas
Member since Sep 2016
505 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:23 pm to
The big question is: does the Turtle endorse DeSantis? I saw this on Twitter but I lost the link. If so, that's a problem. If not, I'm good!
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:33 pm to
So using 2020 results as a measuring stick, do you believe Desantis could get 74 million votes if the election were next week? That was Trump’s number in 20.

For more reference, the record until the ‘20 election was 69 million by Obama in 2008.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 12:41 pm to
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He is more Bill Clinton than Reagan.




wrong.
Posted by Jayrod79
Colorado
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:23 pm to
And people still believe Biden got 81 million and Trump is the problem. Talking politics and ignoring the problem is part of the problem. Trump is the strongest Republican candidate until he decides not to run. Wether or not any Republican candidate can win anywhere is not up to them its up to the democrats. Polling used to give you a pretty good idea which way elections would swing. 2020 worst debacle in 4 decades. Same for 2022 . Mail in ballots are not a problem if they are counted accurately and not used to add votes. Ignoring all the facts that Trump is pointing out not rants shows you exactly how much influence media has not only on young minds but other so called Republicans that can't think with their own brain.
Posted by FairhopeTider
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Member since May 2012
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:26 pm to
Only Trump should run. It’s his turn.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:34 pm to
It’s a hard pill to swallow that after all the destruction the left inflicted upon the country and its people for the mere purpose of neutralizing their nemesis and biggest threat, and yet even failed to do so…….that it would be a chunk of the right itself that would pick up the torch and bend over backwards to help the left succeed in their destructive efforts.

I gotta say, I really didn’t see that coming, that so many on the right would become so hateful and bitter that they’d willingly forward the causes of the left.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 1:36 pm
Posted by mikeybates
Member since Sep 2020
238 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:50 pm to
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So using 2020 results as a measuring stick, do you believe Desantis could get 74 million votes if the election were next week? That was Trump’s number in 20.

For more reference, the record until the ‘20 election was 69 million by Obama in 2008.


The issue is the margin, not the absolute number- it doesn't matter if LSU scores 50 but the other team scores 51. And yes, I believe that DeSantis could get that many votes.
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 1:54 pm to
Alright, can he get 81,000,001 votes, topping that of the Democrat challenger in ‘20? And yea I do think overall vote total is a good indicator of which candidate probably scored the all important swing states. Also, popular vote seems to be quite important to many people as well.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 1:59 pm
Posted by TGFN57
Telluride
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:22 pm to
DeSantis is the best choice for the country.
trump and his cultists need to all frick off.
Posted by FairhopeTider
Fairhope, Alabama
Member since May 2012
20832 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:32 pm to
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DeSantis is the best choice for the country. trump and his cultists need to all frick off.


Haven’t you heard? He’s apparently an establishment cuck now because people might dare consider him an option instead of an insecure 78 year old.
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15514 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:39 pm to
The GOPe, by failing, yet again, to correct problems caused by ballot harvesting could nominate FDR as a Republican, and he would still lose Detroit, Wisconsin, Clark County NV, Maricopa County AZ, Philadelphia and ATL.

If I’m RDS I decline GOPe overtures for exactly that reason. I think he will decline. He’s smart enough to know he cannot win the GE.
Posted by Jjdoc
Cali
Member since Mar 2016
53515 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:40 pm to
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He’s apparently an establishment cuck now because people might dare consider him an option instead


Not true at all.


I, like most, have loved the front he put up in Fl with the help of America First state Legislature. We have high hopes for the movement.


But when you start doing those things that we demand to get away from and that got you to this point, it's red flags.


One of those is Ken Griffin who is a billionaire backer and Member of the WEF. He stated he is backing DeSantis because he wants to kill America Frist and realign the Party wo multinationalist corps..... Globalism.

You od so say you are doing something for a purpose unless you expect what you are doing will end in that purpose.


75% of the people that have come out of the woodwork have always been people that support Mr Griffin's desire and now they are in an all out war here on PT to agree with him and convience you that we must return to that.

Even IB Chinaman is back!
Posted by Message Board User
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:42 pm to
It's hilarious that the GOP has lost 3 straight national elections and Trump people are blaming anybody but Trump.

Everybody's goal in life should be to find someone who unconditionally loves them as much as MAGA unconditionally loves Trump.
Posted by Bogie00
Tiger in Kansas
Member since Apr 2012
5704 posts
Posted on 11/13/22 at 2:55 pm to
DeSantis has done a great job and can't be blamed if GOPe support him. It does not mean he will become a globalist.

Just like Trump did a great job and can't be blamed if supported by David Duke.

But these polls are crap right now. IGNORE them. Everyone, including Trump should hold off on 2024 talk and help Walker win GA Senate seat.

We don't even know for sure that Republicans will get majority in House.
Posted by Kreg Jennings
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:05 pm to
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It's a great step forward to sanity.


And most likely path to victory
Posted by davyjones
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Posted on 11/13/22 at 3:08 pm to
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Everybody's goal in life should be to find someone who unconditionally loves them as much as MAGA unconditionally loves Trump.

I want to find someone who loves me as much as you hate and are angered by Trump and MAGA. Now that’s success.
This post was edited on 11/13/22 at 3:09 pm
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