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re: New Religous Liberty Bill Surfaces In Georgia

Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:26 am to
Posted by mindbreaker
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 8:26 am to
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would you like your bad arguments shot down too? BRB


And yours aren't. You literally equated disagreeing with stabbing someone with a coke bottle shard with disagreeing with homosexuality.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 3:08 pm to
People in here keep making the same erouneous argument that the baker refused service to the gay person because he was gay and that's just not the case, so at least be honest. The baker was willing to serve the gay person in any other capacity, but simply didn't want to bake a wedding cake which he viewed as a form of validating same sex marriage, something his faith was against.
If we can't even be honest with the particulars of the case, it's no use.
If a divorced person had entered the bakery and said," I want a cake celebrating my 3rd divorce and the baker would have refused, it would never have been an issue.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 3:10 pm
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:10 pm to
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If a divorced person had entered the bakery and said," I want a cake celebrating my 3rd divorce and the baker would have refused


They aren't going to refuse that person.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:11 pm to
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They aren't going to refuse that person.



They ought to be able to, if they so chose.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57932 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:41 pm to
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They aren't going to refuse that person.


You don't know that.
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
805 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:43 pm to
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You don't know that.


True, but Christians tend to view divorce and homosexuality on 2 different levels. Which I always found odd because one of them was directly addressed by jesus.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 4:48 pm to
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True, but Christians tend to view divorce and homosexuality on 2 different levels. Which I always found odd because one of them was directly addressed by jesus.



It's not odd for at least two reasons. One, divorced people can still procreate and same sex couples can't without outside help.
Two, there are divorces that are allowable biblically. There is no such thing concerning homosexuality.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 4:50 pm
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
805 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:00 pm to
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there are divorces that are allowable biblically.


That shouldn't be plural. There is one acceptable reason for divorce that jesus talks about.

Back to the original topic...I think the issue of a business refusing service if it's coupled with a reason (race, religion, sexual orientation) then it's discrimination and the government should intervene. If the business were to say they are too busy or not accepting new clients then the government has no business forcing them to provide the service.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57932 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:03 pm to
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Back to the original topic...I think the issue of a business refusing service if it's coupled with a reason (race, religion, sexual orientation) then it's discrimination and the government should intervene. If the business were to say they are too busy or not accepting new clients then the government has no business forcing them to provide the service.


I know your position. I disagree.
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
805 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:07 pm to
That's not very Christ like. Love your neighbor. It feels good.
Posted by Revelator
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Posted on 2/23/17 at 5:42 pm to
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That's not very Christ like. Love your neighbor. It feels good.


Did Christ exhibit love when he walked into the temple and overturned the money changers tables? And then he made a whip and chased them out!
Should he have simply just winked at them and walked on by?
I can love my neighbor and still not condone or enable his/ her sinful lifestyle.
This post was edited on 2/23/17 at 5:43 pm
Posted by cito
BR
Member since Nov 2015
805 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:24 pm to
He seemed to be much harder on those who claimed to be his followers. They were using the temple and the Lord to turn a profit. Taking advantage of the poor. Quote," turning it into a den of thieves"

Once again, another thing jesus felt the need to address. But not homosexuality.
Posted by Revelator
Member since Nov 2008
57932 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 6:29 pm to
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Once again, another thing jesus felt the need to address. But not homosexuality.



Mainline Christianity has always been very consistent on the Bible's teaching on homosexuality. All denominations have steadfastly concluded that the Bible is against it.
Only in very recent years have apologists and gay advocacy groups tried to reinterpret scripture to somehow give a pass on the subject focusing on the issue of love.
If you, for whatever reason are part of this group, that's your business.
I will never condone or encourage homosexual behavior.
Posted by PNW
Northern Rockies
Member since Mar 2014
6193 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 10:25 pm to
Another win for Georgia. Nathan Deal slams the door shut.

LINK
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 2/23/17 at 11:17 pm to
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What do you think about all female gyms that ban men from joining?


I dont care. If it ends up hurting the business, they wont do it.

The only time i care about discrimination is when it comes to employment.
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