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New rationing policies in UK healthcare l #singlepayerprobs
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:37 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:37 pm
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welcome to socialized medical care, land of the ration
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Health care experts in Great Britain are warning that obese people and smokers will be routinely refused operations all across Great Britain in the very near future. The latest case in point comes from North Yorkshire, where patients having a BMI of 30 or higher and smokers will be refused routine surgery for over a year for non-life-threatening conditions.
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Vale of York Clinical Commissioning Group (CCG) stated:
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The local system is under severe pressure. Hospitals are being warned they will not be paid for surgery if they carry out operations on obese patients who are not exempt from the policy. This work will help to ensure that we get the very best value from the NHS and not exceed our resources or risk the ability of the NHS being there when people really need it.
welcome to socialized medical care, land of the ration
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Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
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non-life-threatening conditions.
Which encompasses most surgeries.
Need a knee replaced. Go frick yourself.
Hernia. Go sit on a dick.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
I'm against socialized medicine, but this policy doesn't bother me at all. We need more consequences for people who choose degeneracy.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:39 pm to MrSpock
...And BamaATL will come here in about 3 minutes to defend this.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
I don't think people that are for socialized medicine in the U.S. have thought this through.
They think they can have healthcare like they are used to getting, plus it's free.
Nope.
They think they can have healthcare like they are used to getting, plus it's free.
Nope.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
But, every one has access!!!
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:40 pm to back9Tiger
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...And BamaATL will come here in about 3 minutes to defend this.
she will use an incoherent definition of "rationing" that makes no logical sense given the conversation
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
Real catch 22 on bariatric surgery
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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BMI of 30 or higher
for a 6"-0" male, 221 lbs is BMI of 30
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
atl will be along shortly to tell us why that won't happen here
Eta: back9 beat me to it
Eta: back9 beat me to it
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 4:42 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:41 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I'm against socialized medicine, but this policy doesn't bother me at all. We need more consequences for people who choose degeneracy.
The consequences should be that you pay more, not be denied service.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:41 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:41 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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They think they can have healthcare like they are used to getting, plus it's free.
Nope.
exactly
while this was framed poorly with "death panels", rationing is required for single payer systems
i think Japan has major issues b/c they don't ration, and they have only lasted this long b/c that's one of the healthiest cultures on earth. how long will our obese society be able to make it work?
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:42 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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We need more consequences for people who choose degeneracy.
Is there a system in the UK whereby these people (the obese, smokers, etc.) could purchase on their own some sort of supplemental policy that may provide coverage for such things, or is that not allowed under their system? I'm guessing, it's not.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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welcome to socialized medical care, land of the ration
rationing is great. We need more of it. I think making those who have poor life choices suffer is the way to go, if you are going to ration.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:44 pm to Y.A. Tittle
they have private insurance
Canada is the one who attacks private healthcare
Canada is the one who attacks private healthcare
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:44 pm to Hawkeye95
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rationing is great. We need more of it.
i don't disagree, but i'm honest about it (as are you)
DEMs? not so much
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:46 pm to Hawkeye95
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who have poor life choices suffer
Will be claimed to be unfair to minorities.
Nice try but your SJW friends and the SJW side of your brain won't let this happen.
This post was edited on 8/1/17 at 4:47 pm
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:46 pm to SlowFlowPro
I am for 100 percent market based, but if we have to go to some form of single payer, then I am for a government major medical policy with no bells and whistles.
Then you can buy supplemental policies to cover basic healthcare, presciptions, etc.. These should be cheap because the government would backstop major claims and catastrophic illnesses.
Then you can buy supplemental policies to cover basic healthcare, presciptions, etc.. These should be cheap because the government would backstop major claims and catastrophic illnesses.
Posted on 8/1/17 at 4:46 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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PEOPLE WILL DIE!!!
Tubs of lard in piles, dead, on the streets
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