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re: New OECD study shows that Obesity is based on culture, not affordability of food
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:13 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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I knew by 8 or 9 years old what I should be eating.
Cool.
You were more than likely raised by higher than average IQ parents as well.
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:13 pm to Andychapman13
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It's discipline, dude! The same people that are fat as shite are the same people that are poor are the same people that are illiterate are the same pepole that commit crimes in high numbers.
And this is my point. When you're in a cycle it's hard to break it. If you do, you become the exception, not the rule. It can be done, but you are overcoming odds, not just meeting expectations.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:14 pm to Andychapman13
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It's discipline, dude! The same people that are fat as shite are the same people that are poor are the same people that are illiterate are the same pepole that commit crimes in high numbers.
#factsareracist!
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:15 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:I didn't grow up poor, but many others on this board did, and they seem to be more on my side than yours.
This is why I think it's important to post in here.
See, I think your arguments falls apart when you see Mexico and Eastern european nations having lower obesity rates than here, despite the fact that the average mexican or eastern european is poorer than the average african american.
Rural areas of greece and italy are also pretty poor, and extremely healthy.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:16 pm to Salmon
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Cool. You were more than likely raised by higher than average IQ parents as well.
Exactly!
Because I was given the opportunity (by government programs/rules) to get out of the cycle. I know better and my children will do better.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:16 pm to tigerinDC09
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This is why I think it's important to post in here. So many people can't even grasp the effects that growing up poor have on you.
I'm a college student and I grocery shop high quality, low saturated fat and high protein foods for not even $50 a week. It's lack of knowledge about nutrition, not money.
You can buy chicken breast, fruit, tuna, and basic vegetables pretty cheaply. There's tons of YouTube videos for shopping on a budget.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
You want to end obesity cut out the food stamp program.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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See, I think your arguments falls apart when you see Mexico and Eastern european nations having lower obesity rates than here, despite the fact that the average mexican or eastern european is poorer than the average african american. Rural areas of greece and italy are also pretty poor, and extremely healthy.
Yes, here's where we get to the specific American culture issues.
I'm in the DC area now and I walk more a day than I did maybe a month growing up in Louisiana.
There are plenty of other cultural issues. I agree with you, poor isn't the only factor.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:18 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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See, I think your arguments falls apart when you see Mexico and Eastern european nations having lower obesity rates than here, despite the fact that the average mexican or eastern european is poorer than the average african american.
Rural areas of greece and italy are also pretty poor, and extremely healthy.
I think you need to compare the food that is available to these areas
These poor areas are still more than likely eating real food. I imagine rural, poor US is lower in obesity than urban, poor US.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:20 pm to Deuces
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I'm a college student and I grocery shop high quality, low saturated fat and high protein foods for not even $50 a week. It's lack of knowledge about nutrition, not money.
I agree with this statement!
So why do people want to riot when FLOTUS wants a food and nutrition education program!???
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:20 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:Why do you willingly bring yourself down like this? You overcame odds and tough circumstances because of personal drive and imitative. Every other kid in your neighborhood had access to the same programs/rules and most of them didn't take advantage of it.
Because I was given the opportunity (by government programs/rules) to get out of the cycle. I know better and my children will do better.
Those programs and rules are constants. You were given lemons and made lemonade. The government didn't give you the lemonade.
You should never beat yourself up or diminish your achievements, dude.
For a long time I hated myself and it nearly ruined me. I got over that and discovered that in order to be a functioning human, you must love yourself first.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:24 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Why do you willingly bring yourself down like this? You overcame odds and tough circumstances because of personal drive and imitative. Every other kid in your neighborhood had access to the same programs/rules and most of them didn't take advantage of it. Those programs and rules are constants. You were given lemons and made lemonade. The government didn't give you the lemonade. You should never beat yourself up or diminish your achievements, dude. For a long time I hated myself and it nearly ruined me. I got over that and discovered that in order to be a functioning human, you must love yourself first.
The government gave me the sugar to turn my lemons into lemonade.
The government provided my family a safety net that we didn't specifically rely on, but the peace of mind it provided allowed us to expand beyond just surviving.
Like I said, TOPS and PELL grants made LSU accessible to me. I will forever be grateful for the opportunity.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:28 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:Sure, but the only reason TOPS mattered was because you managed to do well enough in high school that college was something you could attend.
Like I said, TOPS and PELL grants made LSU accessible to me. I will forever be grateful for the opportunity.
That's a personal achievement.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:32 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Like I said, TOPS and PELL grants made LSU accessible to me. I will forever be grateful for the opportunity.Sure, but the only reason TOPS mattered was because you managed to do well enough in high school that college was something you could attend. That's a personal achievement.
Let's walk this back. My family was able to get me into magnet schools starting in Middle school. My family was able to afford tutors to get my ACT scores up.
All of this was because my family had some financial breathing room to make this happen because the gov't gave stability.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:35 pm to tigerinDC09
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My family was able to get me into magnet schools starting in Middle school. My family was able to afford tutors to get my ACT scores up.
All of this was because my family had some financial breathing room to make this happen because the gov't gave stability.
Again though, other parents could have used that breathing room to enrich themselves and not care about their kids.
It took personal, good decision making on the part of your parents to care about what schools you attended and where they could allocate their funds.
All other poor kids in your neighborhood had the same "breathing room" as your family because of programs, but I am sure not all of them took advantage of it.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:38 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Again though, other parents could have used that breathing room to enrich themselves and not care about their kids. It took personal, good decision making on the part of your parents to care about what schools you attended and where they could allocate their funds. All other poor kids in your neighborhood had the same "breathing room" as your family because of programs, but I am sure not all of them took advantage of it.
I agree, I was extremely lucky. But something could have gone at any time in my childhood and it would have ended very differently.
For example, my dad was shot and killed in a road rage incident about 6 years ago.
If this had happened in my childhood, there's no way I could have made it out.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:40 pm to tigerinDC09
quote:damn man. Sorry to hear.
For example, my dad was shot and killed in a road rage incident about 6 years ago.
I hope you have maintained a healthy life since then and remain strong.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:43 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The study pretty conspicuously didn't include Arab countries, which are simultaneously some of the richest and fattest countries on the planet. Parts of that area of the world - particularly the Peninsula countries (KSA, UAE, Qater, Kuwait, etc.) - have quietly become the fattest places on the planet.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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damn man. Sorry to hear. I hope you have maintained a healthy life since then and remain strong.
Thanks, it was extremely tough, but it's part of the reason I feel so passionate about my views.
Life is so fragile and so many things have to go right for so many people, I just want people to have less obstacle to overcome. Exceptional people will overcome almost any circumstance, but I want the ordinary to make it out with a decent life as well.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 3:44 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
The type of food we eat isn't having near as big an impact as the size of the portions we eat.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 3:48 pm
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