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re: New Biden Coal Rules ‘The End of Coal as a Power Source’
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:02 pm to homesicktiger
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:02 pm to homesicktiger
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Is it reliable power?
Yeah. Most of them are running over 99.5% production index.
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Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:15 pm to billjamin
Wind and solar must have a reliable power source. The sun and wind are not the source.power to start either comes from something else. They were nerver intended to replace the main power source. Fossil fuel, hydro provide the power and the transmission line for the intertidal substation. But, mighty proud to have finance my making thousands because I am everywhere your financed projects are located.
Wind and solar will bankrupt this country.
Wind and solar will bankrupt this country.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:17 pm to bluedragon
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Wind and solar will bankrupt this country.
Lol
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:30 pm to billjamin
Hey dipshite. Electricity from AEP in Columbus, Ohio is $0.23/kwh for generation, transmission, and distribution. AEP used to be one of the lowest cost utilities in the country, along with Duke and Southern Company. No more. Who do you think pays for this? Residential, commercial, and industrial companies. What do you think it means for our country’s ability to compete globally?
Let’s ask the protesters at Columbia, USC, et al. We are screwed.
Let’s ask the protesters at Columbia, USC, et al. We are screwed.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 9:01 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 3:31 pm to Deplorableinohio
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Hey dipshite.
You’re awful mad about something you know nothing about. Weird. Posted on 4/28/24 at 6:38 pm to billjamin
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Yeah. Most of them are running over 99.5% production index.
Makes perfect sense you'd want to eliminate that while demand grows. I just left a project site in a state that hates "fossil fuel" energy ... that is until they need it. Happy rolling brown-out season.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 7:46 pm to billjamin
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Lol
You do realize the utility has to keep the infrastructure in place to satisfy the peak demand regardless of wind and weather conditions?
So tell me, when the utility is forced to buy the surplus wind and solar power, , who pays for the infrastructure to keep the base load satisfied when wind and solar are not active?
The consumer does by way of higher overall utility prices.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 8:41 pm to AndyCBR
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So tell me, when the utility is forced to buy the surplus wind and solar power
This shows your lack of knowledge on this.
quote:yeah those cheaper $/MW gen units are what’s driving you bill up
The consumer does by way of higher overall utility prices.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:03 pm to billjamin
You are an idiot.
Please tell me, what is your background?
Please tell me, what is your background?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:10 pm to Deplorableinohio
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You are an idiot. Please tell me, what is your background?
Energy finance. Specifically project finance and technical diligence. Yours?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 9:16 pm to Bard
Oh, they are already attacking natural gas. EPA is putting out rules on oil and gas production faster than PotatoHead is printing money
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:25 pm to billjamin
Nuclear engineering, mechanical engineering, MBA. 30 years so far in engineering, design, construction, and operation and maintenance of nuclear, coal, and gas fired simple and combined cycle power plants.
Solar and wind is heavily subsidized. Solar produces about 23% of its rated capacity. Remember, if the sun doesn’t shine, there are zero kWh produced. Wind is about 30% of rated capacity. If the wind doesn’t blow, or it’s not at the ideal velocity and direction, you get less output.
What makes up for it? Base load generation. So utilities spend capital for renewable, non-reliable energy, and baseload generation to meet demand when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.
So, how many years financing bullshite renewable projects? Just because you finance this bullshite doesn’t mean you understand how the GD systems work.
Go to bed and stop posting nonsense about things you clearly don’t understand.
Solar and wind is heavily subsidized. Solar produces about 23% of its rated capacity. Remember, if the sun doesn’t shine, there are zero kWh produced. Wind is about 30% of rated capacity. If the wind doesn’t blow, or it’s not at the ideal velocity and direction, you get less output.
What makes up for it? Base load generation. So utilities spend capital for renewable, non-reliable energy, and baseload generation to meet demand when the sun doesn’t shine and the wind doesn’t blow.
So, how many years financing bullshite renewable projects? Just because you finance this bullshite doesn’t mean you understand how the GD systems work.
Go to bed and stop posting nonsense about things you clearly don’t understand.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:29 pm to Deplorableinohio
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So, how many years financing bullshite renewable projects? Just because you finance this bullshite doesn’t mean you understand how the GD systems work.
10 doing all forms from resi solar to nuclear. I fully understand what the capex, o&m, levelized cost and avoided cost are for each form of generation. Also ME and MBA.
I think it’s time for you to retire if you don’t understand this stuff anymore.
If you had any clue what you were talking about you would know coals been dying for decades because it’s expensive. Only a fricking moron who doesn’t know what they’re talking about would argue that.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 10:38 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:30 pm to Night Vision
Don’t we use coal power source to make EV batteries?
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:36 pm to Night Vision
Love this...anything that will steer support in coal production states (looking at you Pennsylvania) is a good thing.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:49 pm to billjamin
So you are mid-30s. Arrogant SOB. I forgot more than you will ever know.
Keep voting for the fascist, racist, genocidal demorat party. You live in La La Land.
Keep voting for the fascist, racist, genocidal demorat party. You live in La La Land.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:53 pm to Deplorableinohio
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So you are mid-30s. Arrogant SOB. I forgot more than you will ever know.
Early 40s. I was an engineer offshore before I went to business school.
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Keep voting for the fascist, racist, genocidal demorat party. You live in La La Land.
I’m not a democrat frickstick. I support all types of energy. Not just the ones I prefer like you. If you can quit being a homer and look at it objectively for a few minutes you would see what I’m talking about.
This post was edited on 4/28/24 at 10:54 pm
Posted on 4/28/24 at 10:59 pm to thelawnwranglers
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So how will we power out Tesla's
solar and wind! duh! it will only take 2 weeks to charge! well since we will lose all coal and natural gas powered electricity!
Genius democrats!
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:07 pm to billjamin
Anyone who says all of the above is a dipshite. Explain to me as if I’m 5 years old how spending excess capital to building, operate, and maintain baseload generation to backup unreliable wind and solar generation is a useful allocation of resources?
All the capital is rolled into base rates which is not only killing the consumer, but also the manufacturing and commercial base.
My God, it’s beyond me how someone like you cannot understand basic fundamentals.
Wow.
All the capital is rolled into base rates which is not only killing the consumer, but also the manufacturing and commercial base.
My God, it’s beyond me how someone like you cannot understand basic fundamentals.
Wow.
Posted on 4/28/24 at 11:25 pm to billjamin
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If you can quit being a homer and look at it objectively for a few minutes you would see what I’m talking about.
I find it hard to believe solar or wind are cheaper for equivalent power generation. And that is before taking into account replacement cycles and sheer land area.
On the flip side I do know transportation for coal power plants is very high. Especially for those in the southeast getting coal from the Powder River. 20 years ago I was told by one of our clerks that it was $1200/car to south central WI. That number was far more than the coal itself. No idea what it is now but I'm pretty sure it hasn't gone down...
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