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Netanyahu Says the Thing, re: 9/11
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:57 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 1:59 pm to VoxDawg
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"Charging me for crimes in Gaza is like charging George Bush for 9/11.”
Damn. That could be construed as an admission of guilt.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:14 pm to Bestbank Tiger
They still haven't explained how the IDF had intel expressly laying out the timing of the Hamas paragliders, etc, on Oct. 7 yet failed to do anything about it.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:37 pm to VoxDawg
Just like building 7 collapsing on itself, there was no reason to make that comment.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 2:45 pm to VoxDawg
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They still haven't explained how the IDF had intel expressly laying out the timing of the Hamas paragliders, etc, on Oct. 7 yet failed to do anything about it.
He needed a war to emerge triumphant from in order to save his own arse. Ultimately it may destroy him.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:21 pm to MTNviewTiger
If that's the case, then the parallels with W are even more appropriate
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 4:52 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:21 pm to VoxDawg
It took the idf several hours to respond ro a monitored fence breah. They had previously bragged they could respond to in 3 minutes.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 3:22 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 3:31 pm to VoxDawg
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They still haven't explained how the IDF had intel expressly laying out the timing of the Hamas paragliders, etc, on Oct. 7 yet failed to do anything about it.
They still haven't explained how the US had intel expressly laying out the timing of the Pearl Harbor attack, etc, on Dec 7 yet failed to do anything about it.
Thankfully the air craft carriers were out to sea.
War is a business now and it was then!
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:08 pm to VoxDawg
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If that's the case, then the parallels with W or even more appropriate
It more than parallels, they were marching and protesting for a month before Oct to get him out.
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Isreal was in political turmoil leading up to Oct. 7th
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:43 pm to VoxDawg
Everything is revealed in time.
What Was In The Redacted 28 Pages?
Prince Bandar
Bandar is the highest Saudi government official mentioned in the 28 Pages document. While at the time of the 9/11 attacks he was the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, his position in the Saudi Royal Family is much higher.
Bandar bin Sultan first came to public attention in Craig Unger's seminal work House of Bush, House of Saud. Bandar was so close with the Bush family, that Barbara Bush dubbed him "Bandar Bush."
Unlike ambassadorships appointed in the US – which are strictly political or token gestures – Bandar’s background is much more complex and strategic.
Within the Saudi Royal Family, which is also the Saudi Government, there exists a family faction that is more powerful then the larger family. This group is called the Sudari Seven, which is made up of seven full brothers fathered by the Saudi Kingdom’s founding monarch and his favorite wife Hussa. The Sudari Seven are the full brothers who, along with their sons and grandsons, control the key posts in the Saudi Government, including the throne. Prince Sultan is one of the Sudari Seven and he is also the father of Prince Bandar.
Sultan was head of the Ministry of Defense and Aviation and later became Crown Prince – second to the throne – in 2005. Some of the Saudi nationals mentioned in the 28 Pages appear to be receiving funding directly through the Ministry of Defense or through its front companies.
Father and son (Sultan and Bandar) both held key positions in the Saudi Government at the same time and received promotions at the same time. It is valid to ask if Sultan knew what Bandar was doing and if Bandar knew what Sultan was doing. Since they are father and son, one would assume they likely knew. On the other hand, as they held different government positions with specific channels of intelligence flow, their mutual knowledge about these key events remains unclear.
From 1983 – 2005, Bandar served as the Saudi Ambassador to the United States. In this position, he reported directly to the King. In 2005, he was promoted to head of GID (Saudi Intelligence, like the CIA). This is the same year that his father, Prince Sultan, becomes Crown Prince.
The 28 Pages strongly implicate Bandar and his wife (his half cousin) in funding Saudi nationals who provided support for the 9/11 hijackers. While the 28 page document does not implicate Bandar in any direct contact or support for the hijackers themselves, it does show that without Bandar’s assistance to certain other Saudi nationals, the hijackers could not have completed their mission.
Bandar was also the person who organized the now infamous departure of all Saudi nationals in the US within days of 9/11, including members of the bin Laden family….
Robert Mueller was the biggest obstacle for Sept. 11 families who wanted to sue Saudi Arabia….
Families of Sept. 11 victims have been on a 17-year-long quest to seek financial retribution from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which they claim funded the terrorist attack that took the lives of their loved ones. Throughout the process, their attempts at uncovering the truth about Saudi Arabia’s role in the deadliest terrorist attack in American history have been impeded by the FBI and its former director, Robert Mueller….
New York-based lawyer Jim Kreindler, representing the families of the Sept. 11 victims, said in an interview that Mueller and his successor, James Comey, engaged in a systematic cover-up of evidence that the Saudi government aided the terrorists who committed the Sept. 11 attacks.
Several people formerly associated with the investigation stated that Saudi Arabia was financially involved with the Sept. 11 attacks, including John Lehman, a Republican member of the 9/11 Commission, and former Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., who chaired the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at the time. Stephen K. Moore, the retired FBI agent who led the Sept. 11 probe in Los Angeles, also confirmed in an affidavit back in December 2017 that the Saudis played a significant role….
What Was In The Redacted 28 Pages?
Prince Bandar
Bandar is the highest Saudi government official mentioned in the 28 Pages document. While at the time of the 9/11 attacks he was the Saudi Ambassador to the United States, his position in the Saudi Royal Family is much higher.
Bandar bin Sultan first came to public attention in Craig Unger's seminal work House of Bush, House of Saud. Bandar was so close with the Bush family, that Barbara Bush dubbed him "Bandar Bush."
Unlike ambassadorships appointed in the US – which are strictly political or token gestures – Bandar’s background is much more complex and strategic.
Within the Saudi Royal Family, which is also the Saudi Government, there exists a family faction that is more powerful then the larger family. This group is called the Sudari Seven, which is made up of seven full brothers fathered by the Saudi Kingdom’s founding monarch and his favorite wife Hussa. The Sudari Seven are the full brothers who, along with their sons and grandsons, control the key posts in the Saudi Government, including the throne. Prince Sultan is one of the Sudari Seven and he is also the father of Prince Bandar.
Sultan was head of the Ministry of Defense and Aviation and later became Crown Prince – second to the throne – in 2005. Some of the Saudi nationals mentioned in the 28 Pages appear to be receiving funding directly through the Ministry of Defense or through its front companies.
Father and son (Sultan and Bandar) both held key positions in the Saudi Government at the same time and received promotions at the same time. It is valid to ask if Sultan knew what Bandar was doing and if Bandar knew what Sultan was doing. Since they are father and son, one would assume they likely knew. On the other hand, as they held different government positions with specific channels of intelligence flow, their mutual knowledge about these key events remains unclear.
From 1983 – 2005, Bandar served as the Saudi Ambassador to the United States. In this position, he reported directly to the King. In 2005, he was promoted to head of GID (Saudi Intelligence, like the CIA). This is the same year that his father, Prince Sultan, becomes Crown Prince.
The 28 Pages strongly implicate Bandar and his wife (his half cousin) in funding Saudi nationals who provided support for the 9/11 hijackers. While the 28 page document does not implicate Bandar in any direct contact or support for the hijackers themselves, it does show that without Bandar’s assistance to certain other Saudi nationals, the hijackers could not have completed their mission.
Bandar was also the person who organized the now infamous departure of all Saudi nationals in the US within days of 9/11, including members of the bin Laden family….
Robert Mueller was the biggest obstacle for Sept. 11 families who wanted to sue Saudi Arabia….
Families of Sept. 11 victims have been on a 17-year-long quest to seek financial retribution from the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, which they claim funded the terrorist attack that took the lives of their loved ones. Throughout the process, their attempts at uncovering the truth about Saudi Arabia’s role in the deadliest terrorist attack in American history have been impeded by the FBI and its former director, Robert Mueller….
New York-based lawyer Jim Kreindler, representing the families of the Sept. 11 victims, said in an interview that Mueller and his successor, James Comey, engaged in a systematic cover-up of evidence that the Saudi government aided the terrorists who committed the Sept. 11 attacks.
Several people formerly associated with the investigation stated that Saudi Arabia was financially involved with the Sept. 11 attacks, including John Lehman, a Republican member of the 9/11 Commission, and former Sen. Bob Graham, D-Fla., who chaired the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence at the time. Stephen K. Moore, the retired FBI agent who led the Sept. 11 probe in Los Angeles, also confirmed in an affidavit back in December 2017 that the Saudis played a significant role….
Posted on 5/21/24 at 4:49 pm to VoxDawg
I think I know what he is trying to say, but the response to 9/11 was bullshite. This seems like the wrong thing to relate it to.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 6:55 pm to Veritas
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This seems like the wrong thing to relate it to.
Unless they know the cat's eventually coming out of the bag. This is what we call seeding the narrative.
This post was edited on 5/21/24 at 7:44 pm
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:07 pm to VoxDawg
You could charge every us president since the 50s for 9/11
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:23 pm to VoxDawg
Netanyahu owes nobody an explanation or apology for Gaza. Hamas started a war and the Israelis have the right to destroy the enemy by any means necessary.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:36 pm to LRB1967
While I agree, I would offer up for consideration that there's a different point being made...
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:38 pm to LRB1967
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Netanyahu owes nobody an explanation or apology for Gaza. Hamas
Except the FACT that Isreal funded HAMAS to combat the plo.
Posted on 5/21/24 at 7:39 pm to VoxDawg
I think he is saying GWBush defended the USA after 911 and Israel has the same right.
The ICourt order is meaningless as the IC isn't even recognized by the USA.
The ICourt order is meaningless as the IC isn't even recognized by the USA.
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