re: Nearly Half Of Black Males, 40 Percent Of White Males Are Arrested By Age 23

Crime doesnt pay for criminals, but it sure the hell pays for Cops, Lawyers, judges, Prisons. Lot of people needing those fines from us to make their living. The hell with them all!~

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Crime doesnt pay for criminals, but it sure the hell pays for Cops, Lawyers, judges, Prisons. Lot of people needing those fines from us to make their living. The hell with them all!~

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What about the hard working, rugged individual job creators like Joe the Plumber who has the plumbing contract on the new jail in town or the supplier of those expensive assed stainless steel toilet.sink/drinking fountain combinations with the waterless p-trap???? Why you hating on the job creators man.....hell the convicts themselves are consumers of the products the industry sales...they are too be admired also for their contribution to the economy.

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Guys do dumb shite when they're young.

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Black guys seem to do disproportionately more dumb shite.

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Obviously there is government waste and irresponsible spending, but I have bid on government contracts before and I can tell you it's just not worth the hassle becasue of their procurement process and how they drive prices down. I'd much rather sell to private industry.

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You are never going to convince anyone who has not been there and done that that this is the case. Everyone is convinced that a General Contractor who wins a bid to build a fire station has fallen into the same gravy boat as Raytheon and GE. Most Government contracts have little or no profit in them at all....they are great for start-ups but most of the time start-ups can't qualify to bid. Not only is the procurement process a nightmare compared to the private sector the administration costs are also much higher (constantly attending meetings about when there needs to be a meeting) and, the absolute worst thing about public contracts is the payment process. Bill once a month and fail to dot a T or cross an I and you have another 30 days of financing a public works project yourself.

Now...before everyone jumps on this as a prime example of how in-effective government is remind yourself why the process is so fricked up and why the money is so bad. The public demands that bids be accepted from any qualified company (this will never happen in the private sector) and individuals have scammed the system so often for so long that the process has so many safe guards in it to protect the interests of tax payers that it is almost impossible to navigate. At the end of the day for the most part the Federal procurement system works in that at the end of the day the tax payer is about as protected as a consumer can ever be.

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Followup question: What do citizens that receive welfare give back in terms of production that make you think it's even appropriate to mention a business that is producing a good / service to someone who is not doing anything to recieve the benefit?

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They are consumers which is what the US economy is based on. They also produce children who in turn become fodder for the prison industry where so many people earn a comfortable living, they become fodder for the military in large numbers where again lots of individuals make a comfortable living, they become students which means more school officials and contractors and custodians and what not. Hell when you consider all the things that real welfare recipients do for the economy compared to what most government contractors on the magnitude of Raytheon and Haliburton do it is a grave disservice to the character of a individual welfare recipient to compare then with the likes of those corporate welfare leaches....